Based upon what I've learned of "true sharia Islam" I believe that there are no "true moderate Muslims" in the world of Islam based upon the same principle that there were no "true" moderate Nazis within Nazism. Moderate Muslims are like the Mexican Chupacabras, the existence of such beings are only real within the mythological world, and not in a world of reaity. In order for there to be true moderate Muslims there would have to be a true moderate Islam, but there is not! What would appear to be moderate Muslims are those who use a moderate-Muslim deception (tekiyah in Arabic) and those who are simply non-devoted and or uneducated of the life of their warlord-prophet and his terrorist-based religion!
As the human body can be carriers of a disease such as TB or inactive AIDS without obvious symptoms, I believe every so-called moderate Muslim is a carrier and has the potential of becoming what true Islam really is, which is a terrible spiritual disease that can kill the soul. Most radical Muslims (the devoted and literal followers of the Koran and Hadiths) were once carriers (moderates) before becoming "full blown" in the mind with this terrorist religion. There are ways to diagnose the tendencies of true Islam within the moderate mindset. The answers to the right questions will allow appearance into the subconscious that will reveal that the moderate Muslim really isn't so moderate after all.
If you do ask challenging questions to a Muslim, watch for five things:
- Their facial expressions (if possible).
- How careful they are in wording their response. Usually this is a sign of tekiyah being used to protect Islam.
- Their total avoidance on certain issues which is another sign of tekiyah in use.
- Their overall anger and frustration at being exposed.
- How quickly they are to answer no more questions once they have learned what their answers to your questions are leading to.
- C.A.I.R. Council on American-Islamic Relations > http://www.cair.com/Home.aspx
- I.C.A. Islamic Center of America > http://www.icofa.com/
- O.I.C. Organization of Islamic Conference> http://www.oic-oci.org/home.asp
- M.S.A. National - Muslim Student Association > http://www.msanational.org/
- M.A.S. Muslim American Society > http://www.masnet.org/
- I.S.N.A. Islamic Societies of North America > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Society_of_North_America
- A.M.A.N.A. American Muslim Association of North America > http://al-amana.net/home/
Twenty Simple Questions
1. Since the 9/11 hijackers died in transgression (sura 9:84) is it fair to say they went to the Allah prepared hell for their suicide /murderous acts?
Follow up question:
Did Allah, whom the 9/11 hijackers praised by yelling the words "Allahu akbar" as they sacrificed their lives to and for him, prepare a burning fire for all the "non-believers" that were murdered on 9/11 in accordance with sura 48:13 1 and Sura 98:6 2 concerning non-believers?
2. Was the events of 9/11 carried out by Islamic extremist or by the Zionists to make Islam look bad? > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29849
Follow up questions:
- Did approximately 4,000 Jews avoid going to work on the day of 9/11 because they were "tipped off" by the Israeli government about the attack that they had orchestrated?
- If the 19 hijackers of 9/11 (15 of which were Saudi Wahabist) were indeed working for the Israeli Mosad as antisemitic conspiracy theorists claim, why are these 19 Zionist workers referred throughout the Muslim world as "The Magnificent 19"? http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34223
- Why did Osama bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri admit joyfully to something that the Zionists had supposedly done? http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/binladen_10-29-04.html
3. Does every Palestinian suicide bomber that blows themselves up among Jewish civilians (public buses, bus stop locations, banquet halls, pizza parlors, ect.) and who likewise die in transgression (sura 9:84 3) also receive the Allah prepared hell for their suicide / murderous acts?
Follow up questions:
- If not, then why not? Aren't Palestinian terrorist acts upon innocent civilians (men, women, children, senior citizens, and infants) just as evil as the 9/11 hijacker's acts of evil? Does the victims being Israeli Jews somehow cause a change of the eternal outcome for the villain-terrorists - from the 9/11 hijackers burning in hell to the Palestinian suicide bus bombers receiving paradise and 72 virgins, in your moderate Islamic view?
- If Palestinian suicide bombers go to hell as the 9/11 hijackers did, then what should be done (or what would you be willing to do as a moderate Muslim) in the Muslim world to discredit official Palestinian television (PA as well as Hamas television) that glorifies these "evil doers" as entering the gardens of paradise and receiving virgins in that paradise in return for their transgression of religious murder?
4. Has there ever been any Jewish temples in what is today's Jerusalem? > http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/arab/temple_denial.asp If not, out of all the holy places in Arabia (such as #1 Mecca and #2 Medina) why was the city of Jerusalem that had no Muslim structures (such as a Mosque) nor any Muslims living in or around the city at the time of Muhammad, be the special placed picked for Muhammad to travel to (via ru' ya -vision) during his "Night Journey"?
- Why was the Qiblah (direction of prayer) originally instructed by Muhammad to be towards "Jerusalem" of all places even before the "Night Journey" in 620 CE, in which it wasn't changed to be towards Mecca until three years after the Night Journey in 623 CE?
- Why does the Night Journey tale fall under a sura titled "Bani Isra'il" (Children of Israel) in which the story of the Night Journey begins in verse 1 and is followed by the subject of the "Children of Israel" in verse 2 4 and the suject of the "Jewish temples" in verses 4-7 5? Do you see any connection between a Jewish temple and Jerusalem within this sura whatsoever here?
- Given the fact that both the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament (which are centuries older than the advent of Islam) states that the Jewish temples were indeed in Jerusalem (II Chronicles 3:1 / St. Mark 11:15), and given the archaeological finds such as the Trumpeting Stone and the Temple - Gentile Warning Plaques> http://www.bible-history.com/jewishtemple/JEWISH_TEMPLEArchaeology.htm, the inscription near the Jaffa Gate made by the Tenth Roman Legion of whom Josephus refers to as the ones who destroyed the temple in 70 CE, and the depiction on the Arch of Titus in Rome > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_of_Titus, is it possible that the Palestinian Muslim Temple deniers like the moderate Mahmoud Abbas, Nabil Sha'ath, Sa'eb Erakat, and the rest of the Muslim world who remain silent on such denials, are indeed seeking to establish Jerusalem as a Palestinian capital based upon a immense Jewish - denial underlined historical lie?
5. Was there a Holocaust during the Nazi reign that murdered "six million Jews" or was there a conspiracy on the part of the Zionists to fabricate a Holocaust in order to obtain a Jewish state on stolen Palestinian land? > http://www.pmw.org.il/holocaust.htm#1
Follow up questions:
- Do you find it strange as a moderate Muslim that most all of the Holocaust deniers are also Temple deniers as well? Why do you think that is?
- What do you think the moderate Mahmoud Abbas has to gain by denying both the Holocaust and the Jewish Temple being in Jerusalem?
- Since the terrorist-minded Yassir Arafat was also a Holocaust / Jewish temple denier, do you think that it is becoming of Mahmoud Abbas to follow suit as a moderate? If not, then why not?
6. Was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini that met with Adolph Hitler in November 1941 a good and righteous Muslim or a bad and evil Muslim? http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php
Follow up questions:
- How would you defend Husseini's announcement over a Berlin Nazi radio in March 1944, "Kill the Jews wherever you find them" (by which he was quoting a holy hadith) and that, "This pleases God, history, and religion” ?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni
- Was Hussenini in making such pro-Jew killing statements just trying to keep the Jews from steeling Muslim land in Palestine?
- Was Yasser Arafat wrong in applying Husseini to the Palestinian people as "our hero"?
- By judging his works on earth, would you say as a Muslim moderate that the "Mufti" Husseini went to be with Allah in the Gardens of Paradise, or to a burning hell where disbelievers in Allah go?
7. According to the Koran, Mohammad is an excellent example of conduct for believers to emulate (sura 33:21 6). As that excellent example to Muslim believers, Mohammad dug trenches (like the Nazis did at Auschwitz) before personally taking part in the beheading all the Jewish men (including all young boys who had pubic hair growth) of the Jewish tribe Banu Qurayza that lived in Yathrib (now Medina). After having the beheaded bodies dropped in his pre-dug trenches, Mohammad then confiscated their land and valuable property items, and placed the surviving women and children of the tribe into harsh slavery. Therefore, what does this messenger of Allah and his "excellent example" act of merciless oppression and the killing of Jews mean to you as a moderate Muslim?
Follow up questions:
- How much does Mohammad's historical actions toward Jews living in the cities of Medina and Khaybar effect your views toward Jews in Israel and elsewhere today?
- Should Jews be allowed to live anywhere in Saudi Arabia and including Mecca? If not, then why not? Wouldn't allowing Jews to live in Mecca show the true Islamic moderation that you claim true Islam is?
8. Do you support the killing of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh who was stabbed to death on November 02, 2004 for his film "Submission" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submission_(film) that insulted Muslim women?
Follow up statement:
Please explain the difference of Mohammad, being an excellent example of conduct, ordering a Jewish poet named Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf to be beheaded for insulting Muslim women via poems, and the murder of Theo van Gogh for insulting Muslim women via film.
9. What should be done with the non-believers who insult Mohammad by depicting him in Dutch cartoons? Should they be beheaded as many Muslims in London suggested on February 3, 2006 by holding up such signs that read "Behead Those Who Insult Islam" (see picture above)? Since Islamic history records that the excellent exampler of conduct himself (Koran 33:21) had a one hundred-year old man named, Abu Afak and a pregnant women named Asma bint Marwan killed for simply insulting him, why shouldn't the Dutch cartoonist meet (in Allah's way shown by his excellent-exampal messenger) the very same fate?
10. Of the following two choices which had you rather have as a moderate Muslim:
A. America to stay the same under the current US Constitution that provides such things as "freedom of speech" and "freedom of religion" whereby Islamic sharia law can never had a superior preeminence" as commanded by the Koran 7.
B. America to fall under sharia Islamic law and become an Islamic state where Christians and Jews would be officially recognized as a lower dhimmi status, and where things like "freedom of speech" - such as the freedom to speak agianst Islam and Mohammad - and "freedom of religion" such as converting away from Islam, would not only be unlawful, but carry on sharia style death sentence with it?
Follow up question: Of the two choices above, what would Mohammad, being an excellent example of conduct for believers (Koran 33:21) pick for America if he were alive and given the same choice today?
Follow up questions:
- Should the White House become a great white mosque for the Nation of Islam?
- Should the US Capital building become another great mosque for the Nation of Islam?
- Should State capital buildings in every state become mosques for the Nation of Islam?
- Should the US Supreme Court building be a Sharia Law center where fatwas are issued?
11. If a Muslim does succeed in killing the now knighted Salman Rushdie according to the fatwa given by the late Ayatollah Khomeini for insulting Islam in his book "Satanic Verses" >
12. Does Islamic law forbid the killing of women and children during warfare?
Follow up question:
Would this forbidding of killing women and children exclude the 4000 Hezbollah rockets that was shot at random targeting non-military populations including men, women, children, and infants in the summer of 2006, and agian the additional 6,500 rockets that was shot into Israel by Hamas in 2008? If so, then how so? If not, why not?
Follow up question:
- Does the Islamic forbidding of killing women and children include hundreds of Qassam rockets being shot towards population area including elementary schools in Sderot Israel?
13. Would you be a happy moderate Muslim if Iranian president Ahmadinejad wiped Israel off the map with a nuclear bomb?
Follow up questions:
- Who should have won the Six Day War that was intended to annihilate Israel by "pushing Israel into the sea"?
- How is Ahmadinejad's "wipe Israel off the map" rhetoric not the "same in principle" to the rhetoric of the Islamic nation leaders had when they sought Israel's destruction in 1967?
14. Please explain with your best moderate interpretation the hadith "Sahih" (reliable collection) Muslim book 41 number 6985 that states: "The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him."
15. Why did the Mohammad, being an excellent example of conduct to believers (sura 33:21) command his Muslim believers not to take Jews and Christians as friends (sura 5:51)?
Follow up questions:
- Was such a commandment given because Mohammad received a revelation from Allah , that the Jews were the most violent of people towards the Muslim believers (sura 5:82)?
- Is there a sura-connection of the two verses concerning the forbidding of taking Jews as friends and the Jews being the most violent people towards believers coming out of the "same" sura (sura 5:51 / sura 5:82)?
Follow up questions:
- Did the tiny Jewish army or the multiple Arab armies start of 1948-49 War of Independence, the 1956 Sinai Campaign, the 1967 Six Day War, 1973 Yom Kippur (or October War) 2006 Lebanon war?
- When Allah "put out" these Jewish-started wars above in accordance to sura 5:64, why has the Israeli Jews always been the Allah-denying victors?
- Why does Adolph Hitler agree with sura 5:64 in his manifesto Mein Kamph concerning the Jews being the most mischievous race of people? Did Hitler have some Allah-given insight?
17. Are the modern Israelis true Jews descendants of the biblical Abraham, Issac, of Jacob or Khazars from the Khazar Kingdom?
Follow up questions:
- Since the Khazar kingdom became today's Jews in an event that happened "after" sura 5:64 was written, did the Khazar race of people take the place of the Banu Qaynuqa, Banu Nadir and Banu Qurayza Jewish tribes that Mohammad knew, as the most mischievous people on the earth?
- Are the Palestinians the true biblical Jews that are biblically promised to inherent the land of Palestine as they claim? If so, who were "the Jews" Muhammad wrote about in the Koran that he considered himself not being related to, as the most violent people towards Muslim believers and always causing wars that Allah has to put out?
18. Do Jews use human blood from Muslim or Christian boys to make their Matzah bread for the Passover meal?
Follow up questions:
- Do you support the Syrian produced TV series "Al-Shatat" (The Diaspora) that depicts Jewish rabbis cutting a Christian boy's throat for Passover Matzah bread? http://www.pmw.org.il/
- Do you support the Iranian produced TV series titled, "Zahra's Blue Eyes" that depicts Jewish surgeons preparing to remove (steal) eyeballs from a small Palestinian girl for Jewish use? http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP83304
- Do you support the Egyptian produced TV series "Knight without a Horse" that depicts Jews (Zionists) taking over the world from ancient times that has caused national tragedies and governments to fall? http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/934.htm
- Are the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" true?
- Why do you think the ones who believe that the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" are true, also believe that Jews use human blood from Muslim or Christian boys for their Passover matzah bread? Is there a chance that these two beliefs go hand-in-hand from a spiritual standpoint, kind of like Temple-denying and Holocaust-denying go hand-in-hand as well?
- What does such beliefs that are so strong that is causes TV series productions to be made throughout the Islamic world and in some cases aired during Ramadan (Islam's holiest month) say concerning the Islamic world itself?
Follow up questions:
- Did Mohammad have sexual relations with 9 year-old Aisha as an excellent example of human behavior that would allow his believers to follow (sura 33:21)?
- Why doesn't sharia law (like what is practiced in Iran today) see any wrong in a 52 year-old (or older) man having sexual relations with a 9 year-old girl?
- Do you think the child moslestors that appear on MSNBC Dateline's 'To Catch a Predator' with Chris Hansen>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Catch_a_Predator most of whom are many years younger than was Mohammad, seeking children as much as six years older than Aisha was when Mohammad had sexual relations with her, should be prosecuted as sexual criminals?
Follow up statement:
If you believe as a moderate Muslim in the so-called greater jihad (jihad al-akbar) with the total abandonment of the so-called lesser jihad (jihad al-asyhar) in your life, please explain why you think Mohammad being the excellent example of human behavior according to sura 33:21, used the "lesser jihad" so abundantly throughout his life in his conquest of the entire Arabian Peninsula.
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Bonus Question for the Shiite "moderate" Muslim:
When the Twelfth (Hidden) Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi appears, will he be a proponent of "moderate Islam" that might include Western values such as, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom expression, freedom of the press, or will he set things to be under strict sharia Islamic law world-wide?
Follow up questions:
- Will the al-Mahdi be considered a "moderate" Muslim and denounce Islamic extremism?
- If the al-Mahdi will be a proponent of sharia law when he appears, shouldn't all Muslims including so-called moderate Muslims be striving for sharia law now?
- Will the al-Mahdi be pleased with you for not promoting sharia law to your government and in your life?
- How would the al-Mahdi when he appears answer all the questions above?
1. "And whoever believes not in Allah and his messenger - then surely we have prepared burning fire for the disbelievers." - Koran 48:13 (Maulana Muhammad Ali translation).
2. "Those who disbelieve from among the 'People of the Book' and the idolaters will be in fire of hell, abiding therein. They are the worst of creatures." - Koran 98: 6 (Maulana Muhammad Ali translation).
3. "Surely they disbelieve in Allah and his messenger and they died in transgression." -Koran 9:84 (Maulana Muhammad Ali translation).
4. "Glory to him who carried his servant by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Remote Mosque...And we gave Moses the Book and made it a guidance to the Children of Israel" - Koran 17:1-2 (Maulana Muhammad Ali translation).
"...his (Muhammad's) being carried to the Temple at Jerusalem signified that he would also inherit the blessing the blessings of the Israelite prophets." - Ali's footnote on Koran 17:1
5. "And we made known to the Children of Israel in the Book: Certainly you will make mischief in the land twice...We raised another people that they might bring you to grief and that they might enter the Mosque as they entered it the forst time, and that they might destroy, whatever they conquered, with utter destruction."- Koran 17:4,7 (Maulana Muhammad Ali translation).
"Jeresalem was destroyed twice as a punishment for the transgression of the Jews, once by Bablylon, and again by the Romans" - Ali's footnote on Koran 17: 4
"This verse describes the destruction of the Temple a second time." - Ali footnote on Koran 17:7
6. "Certainly you have in the messenger of Allah an excellent examplar for him who hopes in Allah and the Latter Day, and remembers Allah much." - Koran 33:21 (Maulana Muhammad Ali translation).
"This verse points to a most significant truth and a distinguishing characteristic of the holy prophet viz., that he is the best exemplar and the highest model of virtue for the faithful under all circumstances.....a perfect model as he is here pronounced to be." - Ali's footnote on Koran 33:21
7. "And fight with them until there is no more fitnah (unbelief resistance) and all religions are for Allah" -Koran 8:39 (Maulana Muhammad Ali translation).
59 comments:
I think we may have found a Mexican Chupacabras... his name is Khalim Massoud. My guess is some Chupacabrases may finally be getting pissed off at non Chupacabrases.
http://www.reformislam.org
An interview can be seen here.
To anonymous:
Thanks for your input. I haven't heard the interview yet but I have to admit that "reformislam" does sound a bit Chupacabraic. However, any reform away from strict observance of Mohammad's teachings (pretty much Sharia law) really isn't "true" Islam. This is why the "Sufi" sect of Islam is not a Chupacabra sect just a heretical one. I do believe that the more
a Muslim tries to become that all
allusive Chupacabra, the better off
he / she is going to be spiritually. Also, it is a good idea to keep "tekiah" in mind when you hear a Muslim talking like a Chupacabra. Thanks again.
-Joe Whitehead
You asked a question and I give an answer can you deny it? I'm the Mahdi fear me not... for I come with a heart of peace, behold I will show thee that which you know not and will reveal to thee that which have been forgotten:
http://thetruereligion.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ark-of-the-covenant-ark-of-the-testimony-tabut-al-sakina
To anonymous 06/08/2009
So tell me, if your the Mahdi, what's it like living in an Indonesian well for over thirteen hundred years? How long did it take for your eyes to adjust to the sun? Did you know there is some whack-job in Persia (now Iran) named Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who has been looking diligently for you. Would you mind telling him for me that I said he can go straight to hell and stay there? I'd really appreciate it.
Also, I hate to tell you this but your "the-true-religion" is a fraud. That's right, you have been staying in that cold dark well all this time for a bogus reason.
You see, your Mohammad is not a Jew but an Arab of the Quraysh tribe. Therefore he cannot be from the Jewish tribe of Judah. That means he cannot be a prophet to the Jews much less the Mesheach ben David who according to the Hebrew prophets Jeremiah and Ezekiel will be among the Jews at the End of Days.
Instead the mamzer false-prophet murdered and persecuted the Jews of Midina and Khaybar much like his spiritual great great great grandson Hitler did!
Now if you being the Mahdi and all, would like to debate on whether Islam is a false religion or not, I'll be glad to help you, "the Mahdi" out. Just post a comment on your own (not some web-site) and I'll enlighten you to the endless facts proving how false your Arabian Moon-god Allah, I mean "Islam" is.
In the mean time my advise to you is to stay away from all water wells! You know what happened last time, and who knows, you might fall in again and stay there another 1300 + years!
Tell me that wouldn't bite!
Let the Qur’an speak for itself and we shall see whether the Muslims are worshipping a moon god or not.
“When he (Ibraheem Abraham) saw the moon rising in splendor He said: “This is my Lord.” but when the moon set he said: Unless my Lord guide me I shall surely be among those who go astray.” (6:77)
The context of the above verse is regarding Abraham who’s on a personal spiritual journey. He was trying to find out who his real Ilah (Deity) was because he refused to buy in the superstitions and paganistic leanings of his people. Whilst gazing at the sky during his period of spiritual enquiry he witnessed the brilliance of the moon and thought that perhaps that was his god, but later decided against the notion as it began to wane and eventually disappear. The verse is definitive proof against moon worshipping as Abraham who is accepted and known as the chosen prophet of Allah rejected it.
“Allah is He, who created the sun, the moon, and the stars (all) governed by laws under His commandment.” (7:54)
“It is Allah Who hath created the heavens and the earth and sendeth down rain from the skies……… He has made subject to you, the night and the day; the sun and the moon; and the stars in subjection by His command.” (14:32-33)
“He has made subject to you, the night and the day; the sun and the moon; and the stars in subjection by His command.” (16:12)
The above three passages vividly shows that Allah is the Lord of the universe who created both the sun and the moon and made them subservient to Him. How then can anyone even suggest that the moon is the one who created and made it subservient to Him?
The verses presented and others like them throughout the Qur’an are sufficient proof that Muslims eschew the idea of worshipping the moon. It is totally forbidden in Islam to worship anything that is in this universe for worship is solely for the Creator who is not in His creation.
Moses and Jesus Peace be upon them are Muslim
Their messages, way of life and the 5 Pillars of Islaam proves it.
1)Imaan (Faith) in the Oneness of the Almighty Allah (Eloah). Both Prophets Musa (Moses) and Eesa (Jesus son of Maryam) peace be upon them believed in and preached about the Oneness of the Almighty Allah, both proclaimed to the Children of Israel “Hear O Israel the Lord your Ilah (Deity) is One!” and both knew about and believed in the final Prophet and Messenger of Allah who is known by his titles such as The Comforter, Trustworthy, True, Altogether Lovely, this Messenger is Mohammed Sallallahu Alahi Wa’salaam. The beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wa’salaam is mentioned by name in the Hebrew Bible of the Song of Sulaiyman (Solomon) chapter 5 verse 16: “Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem.” (Translation: “His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is Muhammad. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.”) To become a Muslim you make the declaration of faith which is as follows: “I testify that there’s none worthy of Worship but Allah, and I testify that Mohammed is His final Prophet and Messenger.”
2)Salaah (Muslim Prayer) this link (How Moses, Jesus and other Biblical Prophets Prayed) provides you with the evidence and is an introduction to the prayer of the Prophets, which were given to the Muslims as a gift from the Almighty Allah
3)Zakat (Charity) The giving of charity is compulsory on all the Prophets, but the taking of charity is forbidden (Haraam/ Non-Khosher) to the Prophets, all the Messengers of Allah (Eloah) gave charity.
4)Fast Like charity fasting is compulsory for Prophets, both Moses and Eesa (Jesus) peace be upon them had undertaken fast.
5)Hajj (Pilgrimage) Both performed Hijra (Pilgrimage) to the first Qibla (Temple Mosque) in Jerusalem (The Qibla is the direction in which the Prophets faced when making Sallah) The First Qibla is situated on Temple Mount Masjid Al-Aqsa. During the time of Prophet Mohammed Sallallahu Alahi Wa’salaam the Muslims performed Salaah facing the First Qibla in Jerusalem, then the Almighty Allah revealed in the Holy Quran that they should turn and face the Kaba in Makka see Surah : “2:144” “We (Allah) have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We (Allah) shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a Qiblah (direction) which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship (The Kaba), and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces when ye pray) toward it. Lo! those who have received the Scripture know that (this Revelation) is the Truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.” immediately they turned and faced Masjid Al-Haram (Temple Mosque) the Kaba in Makka. The Kaba was built by Ibraheem (Abraham) and his first son Ishmael peace be upon them. All Muslims face the Kaba when performing the Salaah. The Kaba is the first House of Allah
All the Prophets of Allah are Muslim, they all greeted as Muslims greet each other with As’salaamu Alaikum and their character was the submission to our (Ilah) Deity/ Lord. (Allahu Ahad) Allah The One, (Allahu Samad) Allah the Eternal Besaught of all, (Lam Ya lid Wa Lam Yu lad) He begetteth Not nor was He begotten, (Wa Lam ya kulahu kufuwan Ahad) And there is None comparable unto Him.
Al-Quran Surah 2:163 “Your Ilah (Deity/ Lord) is One; there is none but Him, The Most Gracious, Most Merciful”
The Word (Messages) of Allah is Truth, therefore follow the religion of Ibraheem (Abraham) peace be upon him, the upright. He was not of the idolaters. He is a Muslim (One who submits to the will of Allah). Lo! The first Sanctuary appointed for mankind is that at Makka (The Kaba), a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples; wherein are plain testament of Allah’s guidance; the place where Ibraheem (Abraham) peace be upon him stood to pray; and whosoever entereth it is safe.
http://thetruereligion.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/islam-for-israel/
Want to hear from Muslim Israelis and Jews who have reverted to Islaam?
Visit: http://jews-for-allah.org/
Not only Jews were saved from Pharoah in Egypt among them were their "Brother ISRAELITES" the Ishmaelites "Arabs" During the time of Moses peace be upon him the families of Abraham were not divided as yet see the Torah it confirms this. Shema Yisrael Shahada: Hear O Israel the Lord your Ilah (Deity) is One, There's None worthy of Worship but Allah the One and only Ilah (Deity) and Mohammed is His final Prophet and Messenger.
To Anonymous or most likely, Mohammad
Posted:
August 3, 2009 7:43 am / 7;45 am / 8:22 am
Islam's goal is to merge it Arabian moon god "Allah" with that of the one true God of Israel. In order to do this Islam had to drop the daughters of chief moon-god Allah which were Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat along with claiming the Hebrew prophets were "Muslim" as if the Hebrews had some connection with such a pagan Arabian deity!
Tell me Anonymous, why the crescent "MOON" of all things many flags of Muslim countries?
Why the crescent "MOON" at the top of most mosques and other Muslim religious structures such as the Qubbatas-Sakhrah (Dome of the Rock) in Jerusalem?
Why is there a crescent "MOON" of all things on minarets all over the Muslim world where the Islamic Adhan prayer-call is made?
Let's see if we can real easily connect the dots here:
Right up until Mohammad's conquest of Arabia, the chief of the pantheon gods to the Quraish tribe (which just so happens to be the tribe of Mohammad) was none other than "ALLAH". And where was MOON-god Allah worshiped? The Ka'ab!
Now days the Allah-deity is still worshiped under a "crescent moon" in the same exact Ka'ab. Hmmmmm?
And since the pagan Arabians enjoyed worshiping "objects of the sky" we'll just throw in the meteorite Ka'ab stone that Mohammad himself venerated, that it might be "worshiped with kisses" during a "religious" pilgrimage called the hajj. All this while claiming the one true God of Israel? hmmmm?
Anonymous, Islam is a fairytale based religion bent on using that fairytale religion as an inspiration to dominate by political means thereby implementing the usage of "jihad".
Yes, I know, Islam was the first religion and Adam and Avraham built the Ka'ab - yea, whatever - I say "fairytale"!
I'm not much into so-called prophets who at the age of 52 has sex with nine year old child-brides of whom he engaged at six years old, or who wondered if they wasn't demon-possessed after having experiences with so-called Gabriel, only to be reassured by his "woman" wife!
If Moses was a Muslim then I'm an old fashion one who believes in honoring the Sabbath and that circumcision is to be done on the 8th. day of life. Hint, Hint.
I really don't think Mohammad being of the Arabian Quraish tribe fits the bill for the End of Days prophet, who just so happens to be an offspring of David's seed of the tribe of Judah that no virgin-born man (making him a non-seed of David) could possibly be.
Figure that one out and get back to me.
Oh, now we see why Eesa has to be considered a prophet in Israel - in order for the fairytale religion to cover all the gaps.
Oh, and since Mohammad is mentioned by name "machmadim" in the plural of all things (Mohammad(s) perhaps) in Song of Solomon 5:16, I actual found machmad / Mohammad in other places ....no kidding. I'd like to share them with you:
"though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the "Mohammad fruit" of their womb." - Hosea 9:16
"where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all our "Mohammad things" are laid waste." - Isaiah 64:11
Just remember anonymous, as Hagar and Ismail had to leave the land of the Abrahamic covenant at the request of Sara that God backed up, so too will Ismail leave it again that the God of Israel (not some Moon-god named Allah) be glorified by the everlasting covenant He has with the Jewish people!
"ELOHIM" AKBAR!!!
-Joe Whitehead
To Anonymous - (continued response to posted comments 08/03/2009)
The prayer towards Mecca / Ka'aba
didn't become important until after the Jewish rejection of Mohammad's so-called prophethood. If the belief all along was that Avraham built the Ka'aba, then it would have been venerated as such by both Ishmailites (who for some reason lost their way into the world of jahiliyah) and even the Jewish tribes of Mecca, Yathrib, and Khaybar. The trouble for Islam is, there is no Biblical text nor any other historical record of Avraham ever being in Arabia - only a 7th. century CE Islamic fairytale.
The "Best evidence" concludes that the Ka'aba was build for the purpose of housing all 360 important idols of pagan Arabia including the chief deity named Allah or Ali-ilah.
In fact, Arab history itself has it that Mohammad's pagan great grandfather named "Kosia" built the Kaaba.
Both Christian and Islamic faiths like to make a big deal over Jews who opt out of their covenant for another religion. This is nothing new. Jews have been opting out of the covenant since their very founding as a nation at Sinai. Notice the Jews don't "have to" make a big "what to do" over converts (including those from Islam) coming to embrace their covenant with the one true God of Israel, which shows if nothing else, that the Jews have the correct and original "seed-connection to Avraham" religion.
-Joe Whitehead
Yah The Moon god
By Dr. G. Reckart
(PART 1)
The Jewish/Egyptian hallelu-jah god
The word "hallelujah" is not in the Bible
One of the false gods the Jews worshipped was Yah. This pagan idol has its roots in Babylon and in Egypt. This is the lunar or moon god. In Babylon the moon god is called "Ia" or Ya. It has both a female and a male identity. In Egypt the Babylonian female "Ia or Ya" was changed into a male god and the female god was named "shua" and made the sky god. When a person then combines these forms into Iashua or Yahshua they have made the moon god the sky god.
This Babylonian/Egypt deity is also called Baal throughout the Scriptures. The Jews did worshiped the moon god when they apostated into idolatry from the true God Ehyeh asher Ehyeh (Elohim/Adonai). Look up the word moon in Hebrew and it is "yareah" which is the same as "Yahweh." Modern Hebrew spells it different now to distort the real identity of their ancient Yah god. They now spell it "yareach." No matter, real scholars know the truth!
The Yah moon god remains controversial. Why? Because scholars are fearful to say the Jewish god Yah is the same as the Babylonian god "Ia-ya" and or the Egyptian moon god Yah. They feel this somehow may cause loss of faith in the Jews and in the true God of the Jews. They are fearful and reluctant to make this bold connection because it brings into question the tetragrammaton god YHVH or YHWH since both incorporate the "Yah" deity into their name constructions as "Yahveh or Yahweh." The evidence however is quite strong and overwhelming that Yah is an idol god.
This moon god also has the name of Thoth. It is because there are two names for this same idol that scholars can draw away attention that this moon god is Yah. This is how they do it with the word Baal also. They will not give us the real names of these Baal gods so we can observe the Jews as they moved from idol to idol and from one god to another. There were many Jewish gods. Here is a short list as we found them so far:
Baal=Num 22:41
Baal-peor=Num 25:3
Ashtoreth Jug 2:13; 2Ki 23:13
Molech=Jug 8:33
Baal-Berith=Jug 8:33
Milcom=1Ki 11:33
Baal-zebub=2Ki 1:2
Calves (Isis)=2Ki 16:16
Chemosh=2Ki 23:13
Jah or Yah=Psalms 68:4
Sun=shemesh=2 Ch 33:3; Ezek 8:16
Moon=yah=2 Ch 33:3; Ezek 8:16
Stars=ishtar=2 Ch 33:3; Ezek 8:16
Planets=astrology=2 Ch 33:3; Ezek 8:16
Remphan=Acts 7:41
The land was filled with these idols: Deut 29:26; 2Kings 17:12; 2Kings 23:24; 2Chron 24:18; Isa 2:6-8.
Because of this same idolatry the Jews were expelled from Israel: Ezk 6:4-9.
Because of this spiritual whoredom and adultery against God, Israel was divorced: Jer 3:8.
(Part 2)
Jewish Moon god
The Jews were counted by God as the seed of the adulterer and whore: Isa 57:3.
Because of these idols and the whoredom thereof, God chose a new bride... The Church replaced the whore wife who went after other gods: Isa 57:4-9.
The effects of worshipping these idol gods caused the Jewish people as a nation to be forever replaced by the New Testament Church. They must come into the Kingdom of the Messiah which is the true Israel now, or they cannot be saved! They may be Jews of flesh and the Gospel preached to them first, but they will be cut off forever as long as they remain in unbelief. While in this unbelief they have again taken up the Yah moon god of the Egyptians. This god figures in their tetragrammaton gods YHVH and YHWH each of which as said before contain the "Yah" identity!
Scholars are very good at corrupting the truth on all this including the Yah idol. They have no other reason to fabricate their falsehoods except to keep condemnation from the Jews and from their tetragrammaton guess names. No amount of denial and no amount of perverting the facts will take away the truth. This pagan Yah idol was not the original God of the Jews. This Yah idol is not the God of creation. This Yah idol is not the God Abraham believed in and it was counted to him for righteousness. This Yah idol is a Baal god and the sooner we acknowledge this the quicker the Jews can return to the true God and let him heal their sins. So long as we participate in this massive perversion we are guilty of idolatry. We cannot worship this Yah idol god. We cannot place this idol's name into our names and we dare not continue the massive fraud of translating "yh" into "yah" when it should correctly be "yeh" a contraction of "Ehyeh asher Ehyeh" as given to Moses at the burning bush.
Hallelu is the Hebrew word for "praise."
Yah is the name of the Jewish/Egyptian moon god.
Therefore hallelu-jah is a praise to the moon god. Yah is the hallelu-jah god!
The words "hallelu-yah" and "hallelu-jah" are not in your Bible!
The highest praise is hallelu-Jesus! = Praise Jesus!
Eleleu-ih or Alleluia (Praise Yah) in Revelation chapter 19?
It's Halelu just like Alhamdu which means Praise the word to follow is Illah or Lillah.
Haleluillah or Halelulillah.
The name of the Almighty is Allah (Armaic: Allaha)
See: thetruereligion.wordpress
To Anonymous (Mohammad) Part ! & 2 November 11, 2009 2:20 AM
Your ignorant posts demonstrates the "victim / villain role switch" nature that the enemies of Israel can't help but express. The goal of your posts is to declare that the God of Israel was in reality a Babylonian / Egyptian mood god, yet this is the very "REALITY" of Islam's Allah > http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
Now, let me begin to show just how false and very stupid your "claims" are:
Claim: The word "hallelujah" is not in the Bible.
RESPONSE: Oh but it does, Pereh (wild-ass from Gen. 16:12)
Pslams 146:1 first words connected by a "maqqef" (a connecting dash in English) spelled: hay-lamed-lamed shuruk vowel (vav) meaning the imperative command to praise, maqqef (dash) yod-hay (pronounced "YAH") meaning? you guess it, "God"!
Note: this exact same first-word spelling and shortened spelling of YHVH is repeated in Psalms 147:1, Psalms 148:1, Psalms 149:1 and Psalms 150:1.
Claim: In Babylon the moon god is called "La" or Ya.
RESPONSE: The Canaanites had EL, father of Baal, as a deity as well, from which the name "Allah" has its base in its Semitic language! However, the Hebrew EL (shortened for Elohim like Yah is for YHVH) is totally different in all consciences and worship than "EL" was of the Canaanites. (See Hebrew EL's Statement: "For I am "EL", and there is none else." - Ish.45:22)
Claim: Look up the word moon in Hebrew and it is "yareah" which is the same as "Yahweh." Modern Hebrew spells it different now to distort the real identity of their ancient Yah god. They now spell it "yareach." No matter, real scholars know the truth!
RESPONSE: No Pareh, the Hebrew word "yarach" (which is also by the way, a name of an Arabian tribe, that as the web-site above points out, did moon worship) did not have any connection YHVH. Other than the first letter, the two words are not spelled the same IN THE ANCIENT DEUTERONOMY SCROLLS>
"Thou shalt not sacrifice unto ""YHVH"" thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which ""YHVH"" thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of ""YHVH"" thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon ("YARACH"), or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded - DEUTERONOMY - 17:1-3
{End of Part 1 Resonse]
Part 2 Response To Anonymous (Mohammad) Part ! & 2 November 11, 2009 2:20 AM
One who takes the time to study Biblical Hebrew and Hebrew history will know the truth of ignorant (moon god-worshiping) Islam.
To claim that the Jews was worshiping an idol when truly worshiping YHVH is really quite asinine. YHVH is given throughout the Hebrew scriptures well over 6,000 times. For the ones who does not know Biblical Hebrew: in every case the KJV has "The Lord" God's personal name YHVH was originally used.
The truth about Israel's idolatry was compared by God as a (pereh) Arab waiting for caravans to whom he can (like Mohammad did) do trade in the desert. But notice according to the text, Israel but must return to none other than: ""YHVH""
"..but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith ""YHVH"".
Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as "the ARABIAN" in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness." - Jeremiah 3:1-2
Every idol in the land of Israel was had no part of YHVH. However, the the godesses Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, did have aconnection with the moon-god Allah in Arabia. They were his actual daughters!
Other Notable Gods:
Manaf (Arabic: مناف) The statue of Munaf was caressed by women, but when they had their periods they were not allowed near it.[4]
Wadd (Arabic: واد) God of love and friendship Snakes were believed to be sacred to Wadd.[4]
Amm (Arabic: أم) Was a moon god worshipped in ancient Qataban. He was revered as a weather god, as his attributes included lightning bolts.
Ta'lab (Arabic: طالب) A god worshipped in southern Arabia, particularly in Sheba. Ta'lab was the moon god. His oracle was consulted for advice.
Dhu'l-Halasa (Arabic: ذو الحلاس) is an oracular god of south Arabia. He was venerated in the form of a white stone.
Al-Qaum (Arabic: القوم) Was the Nabataean god of war and the night, and guardian of caravans.
Dushara (Arabic: ذو شرى) Was a Nabataean god his name means "Lord of the Mountain"
One has to wonder why is Islam's modern symbol the crescent moon???
The Spiritual Reason:
The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon.
Archaeologists have dug up numerous statues and hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon god. In the same fashion as the sun is pictured above the Egyptian deity.
It must be noted that the spiritual worship of Molech (gave in your list)in offering their sons and daughters by fire to this god, is greatly practiced today and supported by Islam, namely the so-called Palestinians and Saudi Arabia. Every suicide bomb/fire so-called martyr (sahid) is a human sacrifice to their moon-god Allah in worship-form of Molech.
[End of Response 2]
Part 3 Response To Anonymous (Mohammad) Part ! & 2 November 11, 2009 2:20 AM
It also must be noted that the Kaba stone itself (a fallen star- meteorite) that is marched around 7 times (tawaf) by the religious devote, and is caressed and kissed in religious veneration as was the statue of Munaf, by women in pre-Islam Arabia!
I called this kaba-stone veneration pagan-worship using an idol of stone (like that of the Arabian god Dhu'l-Halasa, and was connected to Islam's Allah by Mohammad's own direction himself!
How about that Anonymous-Mohammad?
When Muslims pray five time a day towards their Mecca-Kaba stone, they are in-fact turning their bodies (their actual backs to the place of the "Holy of Holies" while on the Jewish Temple Mount of YHVH) to practice stone-worship by praying to Allah - the former moon god! Absolutely amazing!
Then you have the audacity to claim that the ancient Jews of the Bible worshiped some Babylonian moon god by worshiping YHVH! You stone-worshiping devil!
Claim: The Jews were counted by God as the seed of the adulterer and whore: Isa 57:3.
RESPONSE: Oh, but don't stop at Israel being cursed because of their sin without continuing to read the rest of the context like all spiritual antisemites always do. Keep reading just a few verses down about their "blessings" of return to ""YHVH"".
"For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made. For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners. I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith **YHVH** and I will heal him." -Isaiah 57:15-19
[End of Part 3 Response]
Part 4 Response To Anonymous (Mohammad) Part ! & 2 November 11, 2009 2:20 AM
Claim: Because of these idols and the whoredom thereof, God chose a new bride... The Church replaced the whore wife who went after other gods: Isa 57:4-9.
RESPONSE: Wrong again! Read the rest of the context verses 15-19 of the same chapter in comparison with the following prophecy:
"And say unto them, Thus saith ""YHVH"" GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
“Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
And the heathen shall know that I ""YHVH"" do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore." -Ezekiel 37:21-28
[End of Part 4 Response]
Part 5 Response To Anonymous (Mohammad) Part ! & 2 November 11, 2009 2:20 AM
Claim: We cannot place this idol's name into our names and we dare not continue the massive fraud of translating "yh" into "yah" when it should correctly be "yeh" a contraction of "Ehyeh asher Ehyeh" as given to Moses at the burning bush.
RESPONSE: Anonymous-Mohammad, it is the Hebrew Bible and Jewish-worshipers of ""YHVH"" and the Masoretic handed-down tradition that tells any willfully-ignorant Muslim that it is a “segol vowel” that is to be placed under the Hebrew letter “aleph” in "ehyeh- asher-ehyeh, giving it its pronunciation that you (your dumb-pereh) agrees with! Why would you pick and choose the Hebrew handed down tradition in one and not the another? Unless, of course you had a spiritual agenda to begin with!
Judaism doesn't even pronounce the name YHVH for reverence to begin with. Adoni, or Hashem is in it's place.
Furthermore, "ehyeh-asher-ehyeh" is not a name but a description (an actual sentence) of God talking in the first-person about what His name YHVH means.
YHVH (as well as "ehyeh" in "ehyeh asher-ehyeh") is derived from the verb-root "Ha-yah and "yee-yeh" meaning to be past, or present, or future.
The yod, the first letter in the YHVH name, denotes the pronoun "He-God" (masculine-singular-in the 3rd. person) being past, present, future. It has nothing at all to do the Babylon's moon god La or Ya. That is a figment of your Muslim-mind imagination in trying to play word games in order to pass onto the Hebrews what Islam is very much guilty of today, which is moon-god worship as the God of Israel YHVH!
The way we know that YHVH does indeed have a "yah" sound in its original pronunciation stem from the Hebrew names found all throughout the Hebrew Bible. Example, YAH-hu-dah (Judah) "YHVH be praised" "Isha-"YAH" (Isaiah) YHVH saves. Yer-mah-YAH (Jeremiah)"YHVH" will uplift".
Notice: that both ehyeh- asher-ehyeh and YHVH come up in the same exact context:
"And God said unto Moses,ehyeh- asher-ehyeh (I am that I am) and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, ehyeh (I will be) hath sent me unto you.
And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, ""YHVH"" God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, ""YHVH"" God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt:" -Exodus 3:14-16
Three chapters later, we have the God of Israel explaining His own name:
"Then ""YHVH"" said unto Moses, Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh: for with a strong hand shall he let them go, and with a strong hand shall he drive them out of his land. And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him,
>>> I AM ""YHVH""<<<
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God-Almighty, but by my name "YHVH" was I not known to them." -Exodus 6:1-3
Claim: The words "hallelu-yah" and "hallelu-jah" are not in your Bible!
Response: Again, you really need to be able to read the Bible in Hebrew for yourself before you start quoting some moron by the name of Dr. G. Reckart who has an agenda.
As it states in Psalm 150:1 Hallelu-YAH, and I like to throw in a hardy, "YHVH" Achbar!
[End of Part 5 Response]
Response to the so-called "thetruereligion" November 11, 2009 2:25 AM
"And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,""YHVH"" God of your fathers, the "God of Abraham" the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: THIS IS MY NAME FOR EVER, and this is my memorial unto ALL generations." - Exodus 3:15
(This pretty much says it all!)
Web-sites about that Allah -Moon-god:
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm
http://users.hubwest.com/prophet/islam/moongod.htm
http://islam.about.com/od/history/a/crescent_moon.htm
DEER OH DEER JOE
1-The language spoken by ABS was not the same as modern day Jews. YHVH is like the Arabic YA-HA-WA/VA = Oh breez/wind,which appeared & was felt by the prophets when God spoke to them.
Funny how God chose to call ABS first beloved son and Jacob names ending with EL,( taken from pagan Egyptian God EL) :
Ish-ma-EL meaning " God(El) heard(ishma) same as the Arabic ( ISMA)" and ONLY person on earth that God gave HIS name to, and not Is-ma-YAH
Is-ra-EL as a country and Jacob's new name, and not Is-ra-YAH.
As for the pagan Arabian moon God , he was one of many Gods of the pagans. like the Israelites worshiped the "CALF GOD" even though God appeared to them and Moses preformed the greatest miracle.Then came the pagan egyptian RAM GOD , that till today the jews blow its HORN.
How about ANAT BETHEL ?? the girfriend of YHWH ( YHWH and his ASHIRA)
How about Goddes TAMMUZ whom a woman sat weeping for her ( Ez 18:14)
How about the God CHEMOSH (Judges 11:24)
As the Arabs had many Gods : Elah the moon, Elah the sun, Elah of fertility...etc, then they realised that their was only ONE Elah as the hebrews did ( supposed to !)
why would Mohammad enter the Kaaba and destroy all the Idols including the MOON GOD ??
Muslims do not worship the moon but use it as a guidance to time telling. As the so called "Star of David" which God condems as " man made"
(Amos5:26) You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the STAR of YOUR god [c]—
which YOU made for yourselves.
tell me more about your pagan god AZAZEL (SE'IRIM))and the copulation of women & GOATS loll.(levitcus 16:8-10)
suppose they have your STAR & they have their MOON, they compliment each other !.
2- As for the Mahdi ( Gifted) no one knows if he is here yet , like you are waiting for your messiah.
3- As for the Muslim pilgramage kissing the Stone, is not worship, but it was seent down by God as a sign of where to build the first house of God. Now explain to me why do jews kiss a WALL of STONES and shove papers between the stones
??? to be read by the stones ???? LLOLL.
your explination to this is B_LL:
RESPONSE: The Canaanites had EL, father of Baal, as a deity as well, from which the name "Allah" has its base in its Semitic language! However, the Hebrew EL (shortened for Elohim like Yah is for YHVH) is totally different in all consciences and worship than "EL" was of the Canaanites. (See Hebrew EL's Statement: "For I am "EL", and there is none else." - Ish.45:22)
here you are trying to connect EL with ALLAH, but NOT EL the jewish God with EL the Egyptian God who are IDENTICAL ?! LLLLOOOLLLL
YOU CLAIM:
"And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,""YHVH"" God of your fathers, the "God of Abraham" the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: THIS IS MY NAME FOR EVER, and this is my memorial unto ALL generations." - Exodus 3:15
(This pretty much says it all!)
What you have stated is God saying his name and nothing to do with jews blessed forever. You Torah has been omitted & changed to suite your priests and leaders. God gave the jews many chances, till jesus came and AGAIN you had him condemed to DEATH and that is when the favours FINISHED. ps: this is for the SEED not the CONVERTS like 70% of today's Israel.
( jeremiah 16:19) O LORD, my strength and my fortress,
my refuge in time of distress,
to you the nations will come
from the ends of the earth and say,
"Our fathers possessed nothing but false gods,
worthless idols that did them no good.
20 Do men make their own gods?
Yes, but they are not gods!"
Now that says it all SHALOM
DEER OH DEER ANONYMOUS MUHAMMAD from February 16, 2010 Part one
The language spoken by Abraham was by far not the same as modern day Arabs. YHVH is mentioned as the “most important and more importantly, “most personal Name” of the one God of Israel.
Fact: YHVH is mentioned nearly three times more - get it - three times more throughout the Hebrew Bible than that of El, Eloh, Elohim put together! Please review that last statement a couple of times more so that you will have a chance to get it through your Islam-blocked mindset.
I know from your post that you are a brain-washed Muslim, but try real, real hard to let this next statement sink in past your Islam-blocked mindset and into your brain:
Elohim is not a name!
Let me say that again because I’ve had this conservation many times with Islam-blocked brains of Muslims and it just doesn’t seem to get through:
ELOHIM IS NOT A NAME!!! Did you get it that time?
I very seriously doubt it, so allow me to repeat it just one more time and concentrate real hard on it:
“Elohim is not a Name.”
Elohim is a title and a appellation. Anonymous Muhammad, do you what an “appellation” is? If you post again, please included your definition of the English word “appellation”. I think that will save some time in a discussion on the appellation Elohim.
The ignorance you displayed concerning the names of Ishma-el and Isra-el in your post stems from the fact that you haven’t a clue that “Elohim, Eloh, and El” are Not “Names” but appellation titles.
Why didn’t you post your name “Man” instead of “anonymous” since that is your English name is? Oh wait, I’m sorry, a “man” is what you are - not your personal name of “Mohammed” right? Or is it Mohammed ibn Ali since you seemingly believe in a invisible Mahdi which I will get to.
Fact: Elohim cannot be a personal Name of God due to the fact, it is the very title given to false god(s).
Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim (god-s) before me.
I like to say it this to make a point: “Allah is a false-Elohim” - Notice how Allah and Elohim are connected in Exodus 20:3 above?
Go beyond your Islam-block mind and wonder, Why wasn't the commandment (part of the Ten Commandments) stated "Thou shalt hve no other YHVHs before Me? Because "Elohim" is a Semtic title of an "object of worship" be it of the true one God of Israel or any false god there ever was or ever will be. Get this now >>> This cannot said about the Name of YHVH. There has only been one YHVH and that Name cannot, again, "cannot" be used for a "false elohim".
DEER OH DEER ANONYMOUS MUHAMMAD from February 16, 2010 Part Two
If you are trying to say the Jews are in idolatry for blowing a ram's horn shows just how Biblically ignorant you are willing to be
Joshua 6:4 "And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of RAMS' HORNS: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets."
YHVH was not conceived unto the Hebrews from a pagan deity but from a national revelation with the prophet Moses at Mt. Sinai. Allah or should I say Al-Ilah, continued on masking itself through the false-prophet Muhammad who didn't destroy the Kaaba shrine (built for pagan worship) nor the Kaaba-stone (also venerated in pagan worship).
The Jewish star-symbol does not represent a deity nor did the Jews borrow it from a pagan deity. It represents the righteous King David, Israel's greatest King, - Thus it is called "The Star of David" as it also represents David's offspring who is the be the messiah that a virgin-born Jesus and a Arabian / Quraysh tribe born pagan named Muhammad could not fulfill!
Numbers 24:17 "...there shall come a "STAR" out of Jacob, and a Scepter shall rise out of Israel..."
Seriously, the best you could come up with against the Star of David is Amos 5:26? How ridiculous! I'm going to say Numbers 24:17 far out weighs Amos 5:26 pertaining to the "Star of David" that is an ensign to the nations >
Isaiah 11:12 "And he shall set up an ENSIGN for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."
By the way, did you notice it while you were quoting Amos 5:26 that the Kochav was a "Elohim" (like Allah) and not a YHVH? I didn't think so!
On the side of Islam however, its symbol the crescent moon did indeed derive from a deity symbol!
It even can be found in the Hebrew Bible: " And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and took away the ""CRESCENTS"" that were on their camels' necks.
Then the men of Israel said unto Gideon, Rule thou over us, both thou, and thy son, and thy son's son also: for thou hast delivered us from the hand of Midian (OF ARABIA)"
That crescent symbol adopted by the city of Pre-Christian Byzantium in commemoration of the goddess Diana. When Byzantium became Christian - known then as Constantinople - the crescent moon symbol became a symbol for the virgin Mary (also venerated in Islam as in sura 19 of the Koran). Under Islam the city named changed to Istanbul but that same crescent moon that began in Byzantium to commemorate the goddess Diana didn't change at all! In fact under the Ottoman Entire it became today's Islam's FORMER PAGAN symbol - reap your pagan history Muslim!
DEER OH DEER ANONYMOUS MUHAMMAD from February 16, 2010 Part Three
2. Our messiah is to be born physically of David (Psalms 132:11). He hasn't been wondering around invisible since 868CE! How frickin'foolish!
3. Whether it is the Torah scrolls, the mezuzah - that contains Holy Torah words, or the Jewish temple retaining Wall, Jews may kiss to bless them as visual objects that commemorations YHVH acts towards His Hebrew chosen people.
This cannot be said for the meteor-kissing Muslims at the Kaaba! Meteorite-Cults have abound throughout ancient history. Islam is just another Meteorite-Cult whose prophet called "Hadschar al Aswad" (black Kaaba stone) "Yamin Allah" (the right hand of Allah). Give me a meteorite-cult break!
Isaiah 45:22 "For I am El" literally means, "I am God". Notice the word "name" is not in that verse. Question, why didn't you quote the previous verse (verse 21) with that quote? Is it because it's too revealing? Come now, let's tell the truth, Allah is watching. Instead of me putting it in your face now, perhaps you would like to comment on verse 21 on your next post - that is if you have the guts for it - and I'll call you out on your weakness of not doing so if you don't on my next post - you have my word on that!
But since you obvious like quoting from Amos 5 I'll give you a verse"
"YHVH is His Name" Amos 5:8 /Amos 9:6
The Israel nation of Jews are indeed will be redeemed forever to the eternal dismay of all who follow Islam:
Ezekiel 37:28 "And the "heathen" [<that's you Muslim] shall know that I YHVH [notice He didn't say "I Elohim] do sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary shall be in the midst of them FOR EVERMORE! < Now THAT says it all.
Here is another scripture for you that goes along with the one above:
"Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek YHVH of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before YHVH.
Thus saith YHVH of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that Elohim is with you."- Zechariah 8:23
Again, "That" says it all!
Salam!
To ANONYMOUS MUHAMMAD - response to post February 16, 2010 (final point)
Merriam-Webster’s (English) Dictionary
The Word “Title”
: an APPELLATION of dignity, honor, distinction, or preeminence "attached to a person" or family by virtue of rank, office, precedent, privilege, attainment, or lands b : a person holding a title especially of nobility.
Please help in spreading this very important definition so your fellow Muslims can understand more about the "title" of "Elohim". How its very meaning can include an endless number of false god(s) along with the the reference to the one true Hebrew Elohim (God) whose personal Name is YHVH.
Fact worth repeating and remembering:
The Taurat of Musa and the Hebrew nabim holy wrote and therefore inspired in-used the "most" holy and "most" personal Name of YHVH as many as THREE TIMES more in name-reference than the appellations El,Eloh, or Elohim counted together!
Now if I was a Al-ilah moon-deity Muslim, I would want to know why such an overwhelming righteous-revealing Hebrew-Bible fact could put my equating false-elohim with the false Al-ilah to such a humiliating and disgraceful shame.
My Koranic Corruption Charge:
There were "many" versions
of the Koran for the first nineteen years after the death of Muhammad until the the third caliph Uthman in 651 commissioned a committee to produce the modern standard copy of the text of Koran, of which many non-accepted versions by Uthman were burned.
Note: This charge of Koran-corruption and compilation of unauthorized version material by the founder of Islam, includes names, dates, and actual Islamic history of "fact".
The audacity of the Muslim world to charge Judaism of scripture corruption for the self-vindication of their moon-deity religion!
Now here is the challenge to all Al-ilah moon-deity Muslims who place their false-faith in the Koranic charge of Jewish corruption of the Hebrew scriptures:
I need to know the dates names, place(s) and actual historical accounts (not Islamic moon-deity claims) to vindicate this Koranic charge against the Hebrew Bible and Jewish people.
Please copy and paste with the blanks filled in:
Date(s) of when the Jewish scripture Corruption took place______________________
Names of all Jewish conspirators involved ________________________
Place(s) of where the Jewish scripture corruption took place _______________________________
Non-Islamic Historical accounts that support such Koran Jewish corruption scripture claims _____________________________
Note: In order to show the magnitude of how false the moon-deity religion of Islam is, any and all responses attempted in this challenge including trying to use the Hebrew Bible (out of context) text, will indeed be dealt with in response on this site, to the uttermost in fine undeniable detail.
Muslim, you have my most guaranteed word on it!
MY DEER,
Sorry forgot to compliment you on my first post.
You look so good in the Palestinian scarf, with Barak's face , then we might have been able to tell what a REAL SEED would have looked like. Not an Ashki-NAZI like you, the seed of a TURKO-MONGOL RACE. I think you present more your King BULAN and NOT David.
Tell me does your mum wear the FUMKA??????? why are you people always trying to copy Muslims, yet condone them.
ps; i am not your other Muhammad post, you can call me VIXI.
1- The language spoken by Abraham was by far not the same as modern day Arabs.
A- The language spoken by Abs is not modern day Hebrew, but an ancient ARAMAIC form that funny enough when reading the Aramaic scripture rsembels Arabic more than your modern day HebNAZI.
( MATHEW 23:15)Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. ( AND YOU ARE THE PRODUCT OF THESE CONVERTS)
2-YHVH is mentioned as the “most important and more importantly, “most personal Name” of the one God of Israel.
A-FUNNY how God gave his titel/discription ONLY (repeat) ONLY to ISHMAEL,he did not say IshmaYHVH.God does not have a name but a DISCRIPTION.Any way this YAVH is according to some drunk scribe paracite that were condemed all through the OLD & NEW tests.Makes no difference if it is mentioned 10 times more, the fact that Elohi, El...are mentioned too.
3-I know from your post that you are a brain-washed Muslim, but try real, real hard to let this next statement sink in past your Islam-blocked mindset and into your brain:
A- you mean a ZIONIST lying , decitfull brain filled with LARD.
4-Elohim is not a name!
a-Really ?? as YHVH is NNNNNOOOOOTTTTT A NAME .
5-The ignorance you displayed concerning the names of Ishma-el and Isra-el in your post stems from the fact that you haven’t a clue that “Elohim, Eloh, and El” are Not “Names” but appellation titles.
A- I have more clue than your GRAND PARENTS DO. Whether it is an APPELLATION or a god dame surname, still the fact it is used for GOD. Now if you have difficulty understanding, then get off your CRACK HEAD and concentrate.yOU LOOK POSSESED.
6-....... Mohammed ibn Ali since you seemingly believe in a invisible Mahdi which I will get to.
a- you mean like the RED BULL WITH THE GOLD STRIPE and your MYTHICAL MESSIAH that will NEVER come to a nation of DECIT, LIES, PROPHET MURDERERS....the seed of GOG & MAGOG.
The name in Hebrew is MACHMAD as solomon said, and in LECHA KARATI
7-Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other elohim (god-s) before me.
A- ".no OTHER " means he is the tru one between the OTHERSSSS. the true one God has always exsisted,the creator, but pagans always wanted to add more to the list.
8-“Allah is a false-Elohim” - Notice how Allah and Elohim are connected in Exodus 20:3 above?
A-Allah is the equivelant to your Eloh. Remember Arabs exsisted LONG LONG before the false name JEW.Abraham used the name ALLAH not YHVH, considerring the Torah was written about a 1000 yrs afterit came. Imagine a BUNCH of DRUNKIN scribe writting the TORAH by a window to air his sweaty A--, thinking it was G-D, and calling it YHVH.Sounds more like the descrition of a FART or BURP.
8-Go beyond your Islam-block mind and wonder, Why wasn't the commandment (part of the Ten Commandments) stated "Thou shalt hve no other YHVHs before Me? Because "Elohim" is a Semtic title of an "object of worship" be it of the true one God of Israel or any false god there ever was or ever will be. Get this now >>> This cannot said about the Name of YHVH. There has only been one YHVH and that Name cannot, again, "cannot" be used for a "false elohim".
A- lets go beyond your lying zionist mind now...all the way back to the time of ABRAHAM, please write those verses you have posted in ANCIENT ARAMAIC OR HEBREW NOW .
wonder why my comments are not accepted. too disetressing for you ?
1-If you are trying to say the Jews are in idolatry for blowing a ram's horn shows just how Biblically ignorant you are willing to be
A-USING A ram's horn , or a star, or cresent is all the same, you ignorant HYPOCRATE( a word describing Jews continiously n the Bible)
as for(Amos5:26)
Now what is your feeble excuse for this verse ????
2- Seriously, the best you could come up with against the Star of David is (Amos 5:26? )How ridiculous! I'm going to say Numbers 24:17 far out weighs Amos 5:26 pertaining to the "Star of David" that is an ensign to the nations >
A- seriously are people supposed to take the weak verse you gave against the strong one DENOUNCING & ADMITTING that the star of David is nothing but a PAGAN symbol ?? How pathetic.
as for(Amos5:26)
Now what is your feeble excuse for this verse ????
HERE IS A LITTLE HELP:
The “Sacred” Star of David:
Non-Jews have been drenched with propaganda that the six-pointed “Star of David” is a sacred symbol of Jewry, dating from David and Solomon, in Biblical times, and signifying the pure “monotheism” of the Jewish religion.
In actuality, the six-pointed star, called “David’s Shield,” or “Mogen David,” was only adopted as a Jewish device in 1873, by the American Jewish Publication Society, is not even being mentioned in rabbinical literature. (See Exhibit 282)
However, the six-pointed star has been used for centuries for magic amulets and cabalistic sorcery. (See Exhibits 282, 285, 286).
Under “Star Worship” the Jewish Encyclopedia states:
“Star Worship … is perhaps the oldest form of idolatry practiced by the ancients. The observation of the stars in the East very early led the people to regard the planets and the fixed stars as gods.
The Israelites fell into this kind of idolatry and as early as the time of Amos they had the images of Siccuth and Chium, ‘the stars of their god’ (Amos 5:26); the latter name is generally supposed to denote the planet Saturn.
Altars for star-worship were built on the roofs of the houses, and horses and chariots were dedicated to the worship of the Sun. (II Kings 21:5; 23:4-5, 11-12) Star-worship continued in Judah until the 18th year of Josiah’s reign (621 B.C.)
Jeremiah, who prophesied in the sixth year of the captivity of Jehoiachin (591 B.C.) describes the worship of the Sun as practiced in the court of the Temple (Ezekiel 8:16) and that even after the destruction of the Temple the women insisted on continuing to worship the Queen of Heaven
“The ancient Hebrews, being nomads like the Arabs, favored the Moon, while the Babylonians, who were an agricultural nation, preferred the Sun. But, as appears from Ezekiel 20:7-8 the Moon-worship of the Israelites, even while they were still in Egypt was combined with Sun-worship.”
Tammuz is the month dedicated to the worship of the fertility spirit of that name [page 43] [Note: the male sex-god] Elul is the month when he was bewailed [Here, ‘alal’ is given as the Hebrew for ‘wail’].”
But this does not explain why the current Code of Jewish Law (Shulhan Aruch) suggests lamenters, wailers for the current Fast of Tammuz which is in each yearly synagogue calendar!
‘Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity … children that are corrupters … Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom … like unto Gomorrah … Bring no more vain oblations … the New Moons and sabbaths … it is iniquity … Your New Moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth … I am weary to bear them.” (Isaiah 1:4, 1:9, 1:13-14)
Says the Jewish Encyclopedia (under “Moon”):
“The reason why the Jews count the days of the year by the Moon is that, like the Moon, which reigns both in the daytime and night, the Jews have both this world and the future one … The Moon on account of its monthly reappearance is considered as the emblem of Israel … Therefore the reappearance of the Moon is sanctified … by the recitation of benedictions.
3- It even can be found in the Hebrew Bible: " And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and took away the ""CRESCENTS"" that were on their camels' necks.
Then the men of Israel said unto Gideon, Rule thou over us, both thou, and thy son, and thy son's son also: for thou hast delivered us from the hand of Midian (OF ARABIA)"
A- so can stories be found in isamic stories of pagan Arabs worshiping all sorts.AND ????
LETS SEE YOURS:
1-Talmudic Jewish Months Are Babylonian
Today’s “Wailings for Tammuz”
In “The Code of Jewish Law” (Shulhan Aruch) we find, under “Laws Concerning the Interval Between the Seventeenth of Tammuz and the Ninth of Ab, Chapter CXXII:”
“… One should not cut his hair during these days, paring of the nails is forbidden only during the week in which the ninth of Ab occurs; … concerning the goblet of wine for "HABD-ALLAH " on the conclusion of the Sabbath,....
Tammuz“Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here?
“Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here … Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord’s house which was toward the North and behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz …(Ezekiel 8:9-17; 9:14-17)
The shamfull difference between both religions is that , the Jews had God revealed to them and were shown the miracles books...and still worshiped idols, stars.... On the other hand the Arabs were STILL Pagans , and not till after Islam & Mahammad came then they stoped.
1- Our messiah is to be born physically of David (Psalms 132:11). He hasn't been wondering around invisible since 868CE! How frickin'foolish!
A-corrupt Muslims say this rubbish, there is no proof to their claim.
Now how funny that suddenly the Messiah is through the FATHER not MOTHER , cause Jews claim thier identity from the MOTHER, or is it only when it suites you ??
2- ... Jews may kiss to bless them as visual objects that commemorations YHVH acts towards His Hebrew chosen people.
A- HYPOCRATE ! llooll
So Jews may kiss a STONE AS a VISUAL OBJECT !!! LLOOLL, but Muslims cannot ? IT- IS- STILL- A- FRICKIN - STONE, you stone head. No excuse .
ps: once a chosen people , till he threw them out.
3-This cannot be said for the meteor-kissing Muslims at the Kaaba! Meteorite-Cults have abound throughout ancient history. Islam is just another Meteorite-Cult whose prophet called "Hadschar al Aswad" (black Kaaba stone) "Yamin Allah" (the right hand of Allah). Give me a meteorite-cult break!
A- they have their reason for kissing it as you have yours. the rest of pagan cults of the star worship , you will find on my other post.
It is called " hajar al aswad" with no " Yamin Alllah" sounds like " Ben YAMIN "
Isaiah 45:22 "For I am El" literally means, "I am God". Notice the word "name" is not in that verse. Question, why didn't you quote the previous verse (verse 21) with that quote? Is it because it's too revealing? Come now, let's tell the truth, Allah is watching. Instead of me putting it in your face now, perhaps you would like to comment on verse 21 on your next post - that is if you have the guts for it - and I'll call you out on your weakness of not doing so if you don't on my next post - you have my word on that!
But since you obvious like quoting from Amos 5 I'll give you a verse"
"YHVH is His Name" Amos 5:8 /Amos 9:6
A- deffinatly you are on crack, you are arguing, and pressuming all by yourself. I only quoted Amos 1-2 times and noe it is a like !? If he has got it , then i'll flaunt it.
Just remember that your scribes omitted & added, and usually one will add to gain points not loose.
If Eloh's name is YHVH as you stated =(part of the Ten Commandments) stated "Thou shalt hve no other YHVHs before Me. Then why is he saying no other YHVH rather than Elohi. According to your quote Elohi would be the better word to use as God is not saying " another JOHN,OR DAVID"
Considering Abraham, Moses, and the Torah was written in Aramaic then i will quote some Aramiac vesion of God:
(part of the Ten Commandments) stated "Thou shalt hve no other YHVHs before Me?
Isiah 45:21-22) there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Now what is the shamfull secret here?. He is saying he is the ONLY GOD not only YAHVH.tHAT IS THE SAME AS iSLAM WITH " THERE IS NO OTHER GOD BUT GOD "
1-The Israel nation of Jews are indeed will be redeemed forever to the eternal dismay of all who follow Islam:
Ezekiel 37:28 "And the "heathen" [<that's you Muslim] shall know that I YHVH...
eZzekiel 37:28 Then the nations will know that I the LORD make .. "
please print the Hebrew version of this , to compare to the Aramaic one too.
2- As for being with israel forever and the covenant....This is come and gone after coming back from babylon. Ezekiel was NOT the last of your prophesis, others came where it CONDEMS the jews.so what was the last prophesy concerning the Jews?/?
I'll tell you. It was Jesus'sprophecy of NEVER EVER being able to rebuld the Temple. You may try and take it from the Muslims with all your state of the art weapons... but GOD will avenge and will stop you TILL the Messiah comes back. This time you cannot kill him as you killed many other prophets.
You must not ADD& SUBTRACT words like your lying scribes:
( Jeremiah 8:8,10) 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?.8… prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit.
last but not least. Not many people know that the last time jews TRIED to rebuild the Temple on 3 occasions ,an EARTH QUACK , fire, took place and killed every single person involved, then as some Pharasee or rabbi tried to enter it, a fire stuck his face....WONDER WHY ????
last time jews tried was during the rule of Emperor Julian 361-363 The restoration of the Temple was to discredit Jesus' prophecy in Matthew 24, that not one stone of the Temple would be left standing on another, and jews from all corners of the world came to help.
Then One of the most incredible events of history associated with this extraordinary nation and the city of Jerusalem happened as recorded by several known historians::
and on the night following, a mighty earthquake tore up the stones of the old foundations of the temple and dispersed them all together .and on the night following, a mighty earthquake tore up the stones of the old foundations of the temple and dispersed them all together
say that neither did the sacred place admit them, but that when they approached the folding doors that stood wide open, on coming up to them they found them closed in their faces by an unseen and invisible power which works wonders
when they ( JEWS) were forcing their way and struggling about the entrance a flame issued forth from the sacred place and stopped them, and some it burnt up and consumed many men
THAT SAYS IT ALL !! SHALOM.
To Anonymous (Haj Amin Al-Husseni-Nazi) Part 1
Posted March 3 8:37am
Thank you, I know I do look so good in the Palestinian scarf, most especially denouncing a fictitious Palestinian State while wearing one.
Now seriously, don't you feel just a little hypocritical calling me a "Ashki-NAZI" when it was your Islamic Palestinian devil-brother Haj, Amin Al-Hussieni met, embraced, and and lived with, the very founder and head Nazi - Hitler himself???
No "Zionist" could ever do what Islamic Palestinian Al-Hussieni did, so what people really are the the Nazis?
Any people who Jew-hate and Judaism-hate are Nazi like minded!
Get this:
Nazi: Jew Hate
Muslim: Jew Hate
Nazism: Judaism Hate
Islam: Judaism Hate
Now I know one go around isn't no where near enough to get it through your brain washed Jew-hating Koran head. So, I would suggest you go over and over the last four lines in the paragraph above about five thousand times, then you might (might) begin to learn a little something.
I don't copy Muslims. As my picture indicates, I mock them in their false religion. Perhaps that's too complicated for you to understand.
Unlike the Koran, ancient Aramaic is in the Hebrew Bible.
Perhaps you should read sura 5:20-21 / 17:104 while knowing that Musa and the rest of the Jewish people of Israel had a covenant while the "Arabic" speakers of the world were worshiping pagan-god Allah and his daughters Al-lot, Al-Ussa, and Manat, not to mention Hubal.
Musa and "the Jews" were being "chosen" by God, your fellow Arabic speakers were following Arabia customs of burying their daughters in the sands of Arabic-speaking Arabia!
Now if were going to use Matthew 23:15 you'll also need to use Matthew 23:2-3
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."
So there you have it "Matthew quoter"
Circumcise on the Eight day, like the Pharisees said to do, and like your prophet Isa said to observe the Pharisees in doing, not during your Muslin- false doctrine teenage years.
Your response to the name of YHVH and concerning El, Eloh, is quite stupid and childish in nature. I don't know if one could get more ridicules.
Muslim, try real hard to get this:
The Name YHVH is mention 6868 times literally all throughout the entire Hebrew (and should I say "Aramaic") scriptures. This would be impossible to corrupt as in adding to the Hebrew scriptures that many times, most especially when many Hebrew texts (including naming that Name as a "name") surround in context that name, along with many common names such as the prophets Jeremiah and Isaiah containing a reference to the name of YHVH.
To Anonymous (Haj Amin Al-Husseni-Nazi) Part 1
Posted March 3 8:37am
Your quote: "Really ?? as YHVH is NNNNNOOOOOTTTTT A NAME"
How childish and ignorant!
Here's the scripture from the Torah Musa:
Exodus 6:2-3 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am YHVH
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by "My Name" JEHOVAH (YHVH)was I not known to them.
Your quote: "I have more clue than your GRAND PARENTS DO. Whether it is an APPELLATION or a god dame surname, still the fact it is used for GOD. Now if you have difficulty understanding, then get off your CRACK HEAD and concentrate.yOU LOOK POSSESED."
Seeing the quote above, I have to ask, just how old are you?
OK, Let's try real hard again to comprehend this:
El, Eloh, Elohim means (in English) God. Now I didn't say it means the name of God which is "God".
Stay with this: God's Name is NOT "God" no more than your name is "teenager" or perhaps (very young man).
The title for God is indeed "God" but that's not His personal Name!
His personal Name He revealed to Jewish Musa which declared by the Jewish-Torah of Musa as "BEING A PERSONAL NAME" was YHVH which the Arabic speakers of the world do not obtain! - because like the Haj Amin al-Hussieni Nazis, they hate the Torah of Musa Jews!
Concerning the Jewish Messiah, I think I'll take Jeremiah's and Dhulkifl's over your denying their prophecy:
Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob (Israel) and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (ISRAEL): for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them (ISRAEL). Jer. 33:26
And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob (ISRAEL) my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. - EZK 37:25
Your quote: ".no OTHER " means he is the tru one between the OTHERSSSS. the true one God has always exsisted,the creator, but pagans always wanted to add more to the list. "
You just don't "other" (Allah-moon elohim) get it do you? Perhaps it's your Haj Amin al-Hussieni Nazi Islamic false moon-god doctrine not letting you see it, I guess?
Your quote: "Allah is the equivelant to your Eloh. Remember Arabs exsisted LONG LONG before the false name JEW.Abraham used the name ALLAH not YHVH, considerring the Torah was written about a 1000 yrs afterit came."
The Torah of Musa describes Abraham as a "Hebrew" Genesis 14:13. The Prophets Jeremiah and Isaiah prophesied and wrote holy Jewish script while having "Yah" (see Psalms 68:4) in their very prophet of YHVH names!
Now, you might find that "FART or BURP" as you put it, in the Arabic pronunciation of sura 2:55. What do you think?
The Torah of Jewish Musa was written by Jewish Musa in ancient Hebrew. Since its some point your trying to make, I'll let you post the ancient Hebrew pronunciation of the scriptures I posted, as you provide the source your using in that it supposedly said something originally different.
You surely didn't provide date, names, places, and original statement of text, as was my challenge to any and all pro-Haj Amin al-Husseni Hitler-meeting supporting Nazi Muslim.
It's late so I'll only address your first post, until a short time later. And no, you will not post again on my site until I'm done answering your Nazi-Jew-hating-like Islamic false moon-god claims!
This ends Part 1 of many responses!
To Anonymous (Lover of Haj Amin Al-Husseni-Nazi) Post 2
Posted March 3, 1057 am
You wrote:
"wonder why my comments are not accepted. too disetressing for you?"
My response:
All your post have been post and are now being responded too, so why is there wonder on your part about your comments not being accepted?
To Anonymous (lover of Haj Amin Al-Husseni-Nazi) Post 3
Posted March 3, 11:00:59 am CST
You wrote:
1."USING A ram's horn , or a star, or cresent is all the same"...
2. as for(Amos5:26)
Now what is your feeble excuse for this verse?"
3."are people supposed to take the weak verse you gave against the strong one DENOUNCING & ADMITTING that the star of David is nothing but a PAGAN symbol? How pathetic.
My response:
1. You obviously are totally out of touch with the Hebrew Bible's message. Like all lovers of Haj Amin al-Hussieni Nazi Islamic willful idiots, your goal is to only pervert the Hebrew Bible by picking and choosing certain texts and placing them out of context in an effort in trying support Islam, while any texts and ideas within the scriptures - like the 6808 times it stresses the most personal Name of God "YHVH" - well that has to be corrupted with no evidence of place, time, names, and what a so-called text originally said. Your in Islamic fantasy land to your own damnation!
Blowing a ram's horn as YHVH directed the priests via Musa to do is the same as using the goddess Diana crescent moon symbol? You're literally a damned fool!
2. From Wikipedia: "Even today, the star نجمة داوود, Najmat Dāwūd / oم سليمان Khātem Sulaymān, can be found in mosques and on other Arabic and Islamic artifacts."
WOW! Maybe you had better ask the Islamic builders of the Qutb (Islamic) Complex in Delhi, India why they used an Amos 5:26 symbol on their building? hahahahah.....I know, I know....It's a "Zionist" conspiracy to discredit Islam hahahahah!
3.Now what is your feeble excuse for this verse being used in and on Islam's major complexes and artifacts? hahaaha!
To Anonymous (Lover of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 11:02 am CST
part 1
Your “little help” concerning the “Star of David” seems to come from a liberal - Communist antisemite, named Elizabeth Dilling.
Your post comes from her 1964 book entitles “The Plot Against Christianity” later changed to “The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today” as to not look so antisemitic in a “Christian against Jew” nature and mindset.
From Wikipedia: “Dilling claimed that Marxism and "Jewry" were synonymous and admired both Adolf Hitler and Francisco Franco. She claimed many prominent figures were Communist sympathizers, including Eleanor Roosevelt, Mahatma Gandhi, Franz Boas and Sigmund Freud. Dilling concluded that a growing elite sought to remake the United States as a communist state”
Here is a little help points for you as a Al-Husseni al-Nazi, female liberal communist (wako) reader / web-site copy and paster”
1. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever in all the earth that the hexagram was used by the Israelites during Amos’ time in their false-elohim worship (yes, I said it right) of Siccuth, Chiun, and most especially Kochav. This claim is pulled right out of Islam’s wild-ass (lying) nature (Gen. 16:12).
Since many ancient false-elohim deity images have been found in Israel, show me the archeology of the hexagram image during the prophet Amos’ time to prove your false claim to be right!
2. Unlike the Crescent moon which adopted from the symbol of goddess Diana FROM THE VERY SAME CITY FROM WHICH IT WAS CREATED, (pre-Christian Byzantium - later Islamic Istanbul) Jewish never “adopted” the hexagon from an area or region from which it was used for occult purposes. Note: Unlike the “Crescent moon” with Diana, the hexagon has only been used as “mystical powers and meanings” but NEVER as a symbol of an direct false-elohim named-deity.
3. The Torah of Musa, uses the symbol of a “Star” (never a crescent moon) for the future Jewish messiah - Numbers 24:17 “ Star out of Jacob / Israel” So I fail to see any wrong-doing of modern Zionism using a symbol that the God of Israel had Himself already used!
4. Simon bar Kosiba who was thought by some to be the messiah because he had lead a successful revolt against the Romans in 132 CE became know in his day as “Bar Kokhba”. Why? What does Bar Kachba mean?
5. The practical theory behind the Star of David (from whom the messiah comes) is that during the Bar Kochba revolt, a new technology was developed for shields, which used the inherent stability of the triangle. Behind the shield were two interlocking triangles, forming a hexagonal pattern of support points.
To Anonymous (Lover of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 11:02 am CST
part 2
6. The Islamic symbol of crescent moon is literally an actual heaven-body in which the religion of Islam is lunar-calender and moon-month of Ramadon based. The Star of David on the other hand, has no actual heaven-body object that it directly symbolizes demonstrating it is NOT false-elohim in origin, but was known to be a symbol of power among mystic and occultist - who applied it wrong according to their dark nature. How about that Muslim!
7. The Star of Jewish (messianic figure) David, was forced upon the Jews during the Holocaust as a mark of shame in the form of a Yellow star. Thus, those who want shame the Jews for their Star of David are the spiritually links to the Nazis (as true Jew-hating Islam indicates).
But like the Arch of Titus, the God of Israel has allowed persecuted shame become Israel victorious glory symbol of the rise of Jewish nation redemption unfolds! Thus, the Star of David has become an ensign to the nations of the return of Jews to their Biblical ancestral homeland of Israel
"And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. - Isaiah 11:12
Note: it was by the emblem of the Star of David that Islamic so-called Palestinians got their wild asses (Gen. 16:12) totally kicked during the Six Day War - I mean plum kicked! The louder the Allah (moon-god) Ahbar cry from the crescent mood-goders, the bigger the Israeli (Star of David) wild-ass kicking was implemented to the rightful shame of Islam!
By the way, how's the highly favored Arabic translated read of Mein Kamph (My Jihad) going - have you like many Islamists bought yourself a copy yet?
Since you like quoting Amos especially 5:26, perhaps you could tell me his very last and ending stating concerning the Jewish nation? Here, let me print it for you:
" And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.
And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith YHVH thy God.
Amos 9:14-15
It so funny how the Jew-haters are really good about picking scripture curses and condemnation but never ever, ever, consider the promise of redemption that always (agian always) comes after any punishment that Israel endures.
Now if you'll read that last line of Amos 9:15 you'll come to the prophetic understanding as to why the Palestinians "had" to have their Muslims wild-asses (Gen. 16:12) kicked during Six Day war.
It all Hebrew Bible Muslim!!!!!
This ends this portion response to your stupid (Star of David" Post.
To Anonymous (Spiritual brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-NAZI)
March 3, 2010 11:03 AM
Part 1 (The month of Tammuz)
You wrote: "LETS SEE YOURS:" (whatever that means?)-then you copy and paste presumably more of the Communist-antisemite, named Elizabeth Dilling.
Ok then, here's mine, in response to "HER" evil-witch (with a big capital "B") writings:
1. DO your research - was not Dilling a Roman Catholic? What Pope Gregory XIII commissioned calender did she use?
You say Greco-Roman?
January - "Janus" is the Roman god of gates and doors (Ianua), beginnings (as in begging of year and endings.
February - old-Italian god "Februus".
March - Roman god of war "Mars".
Was your post of that I'm now responding to post on the 3rd. day of "Mars"- the Roman god of war?
Using your method and suggestion against the Jews of Babylon, and to Jews in modern times, you must believe in the Roman god of war -Mars, otherwise you wouldn't have ""used"" it to day your post! Right? Come on Muslim, Right???
Getting back to your hypocrite Catholic- devil Dilling, what was "WEDNESDAY" including Catholic "Ash Wenesday" named after?
The Romans called it "dies Mercurii" after their god Mercury.
Perhaps the Hypocrite (may her soul burn) should have taken into consideration the difference:
A. Jews worship on Shabat (known by no other name).
B. Catholics like Dilling, hold Catholic Mass on "SATURN'S DAY".
Here is a question for Dilling while she's burning in hell as an evil antisemitic hypocrite:
Why is it that the Catholic use gods and goddesses for "BOTH" their months AND days of the week?
Fact: The Jews used the Babylon names of the month (in which they lived for literally two and a half millenniums) to not confuse their religious and civil calenders - both of which like their days of the week - did not have names but were numbered.
Note: The Moth of Tammaz was the 4th Sacred month while also being the 10th civil month.
Also, a second month of Adar # 12 Sacred - #6 Civil, had to be placed into the calender, so to avoid confusion the month Adar II, or Veadar was used 7 times in 19 years to keep the month in their Biblical seasons.
End of Part 1 response - part 2 continued on next post.
To Anonymous (Spiritual brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-NAZI)
March 3, 2010 11:03 AM
Part 2 (The month of Tammuz)
Perhaps antisemite Dilling should have learn her Hebrew better in her referral of Jewish woman crying over Tammuz in Ezekial 8:14 as most Gentile-English translations print it.
According to the original text, the women were "mavakot" "causing to cry" the image of Tammuz.
The Jewish sage Rassi (died in 1140 CE) lived literal centuries before any English Bible version were made, commented on this verse:
"The Tammuz was an idol made in such a way as to create the optical illusion that it was crying, as if begging for offerings"
WOW! A crying Image-statue! I'd like to ask Catholic burning-in-hell Dilling, where in modern times could we find a crying statue that eleventh century Rashi commented on?
Let me think...hmmmm...I got! "SURA 19 VIRGIN MARY"!
SEE CBS VIdeo> http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=1081043n
Even the Sura 19 - believing Muslims came to see a Ezekiel 8:14 type statue cry >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2775461.stm
I wonder why there are no Jew-Judaism believing Zionists religiously flocking to see the Ezekiel 8:14 modern Tammaz statue cry? Oh, that's right, they don't accept Romulus and Remus 7 cent. BCE "religious-pagan" "virgin births" to begin with do they Sura 19 believing Muslim?
In your post of Dilling, Ezekiel 8:9-17 is posted as some supposedly "proof text" of her hypocrite agenda.
In reading I came across a very interesting verse :
" at the door of the temple of YHVH, between the Eastern Hall and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of YHVH, and their faces toward the east; and they "bowing" (Meshtachaveetem in Hebrew) eastward to the sun."
WOW! Apparently, YHVH didn't care for someone to turn their backs on His Holy place especially when they were bowing to another god. Perhaps this is why the Jew-Judaism believing Zionists walk backwards facing the Holy Temple site when exiting the Western Wall area?
Now Muslim, what religion would dare turn their evil backs to God's Holy place while bowing down to worship facing the east? What religion would do such an evil thing as the prophet Ezekiel described long before Islam???
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.templeinstitute.org/gallery_images/
Again Muslim, It's all in the Hebrew Bible!
The final note on this response:
I had to laugh out loud when I read Dilling trying to equate Israel planting of trees with Deuteronomy 16 I think it was, while totally and purposely not mentioning her Catholic Christmas pagan tree named specifically in Jeremiah 10:3-4.
I think my laughter when something like this:
"hahahahahaha what a Catholic antisemite stupid she-devil hahahahaha!"
To Anonymous (Spiritual brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-NAZI)
March 3, 2010 11:03 AM
Part 3 (The month of Tammuz)
I forgot one last thing in your suggesting Jews worship pagan gods due to their usage of Babylon names of month.
Question: Was the Arabian month of Rajab "venerated" as a sacred month in pagan al-ialah moon-worshiping Jaahiliyyah?
If so, why do the Muslim Arab of Arabia still to this day use thatvery pagan-origin name for that jaahilian-named month when it was jaahiliyan-pagan in origin???
Moreover Muslim, Is the pagan-origin month of Rajab still indeed venerated of the sacred months in TODAY"S Muslim religion??? Such as a religiously fasting???
From a Islamic website" www.islamhouse.com:
"During the Jaahiliyyah, the Arabs used to slaughter a sacrifice during Rajab as an act of worship towards their idols.
When Islam came, teaching that sacrifices were to be offered only to Allaah"
So let me see if I got this right? Jews are pagans in your eyes because they used the calender months in the placed that they lived in for 2 and 1/2 millenniums in order to make the reference of months that have number-names (two numbers apiece) easier, but Arabians on the other hand, who are the very ones who named the pagan months of Arabia to begin with, kept their pagan-origin names of months, and not only that, but they venerate the very months that were pagan venerated, but are somehow not pagans?
A little hypocritical wouldn't you say Muslim?
The next time you fast on Rajab - just remember how religiously hypocritical Islam has made you!
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 11:25:24 am CST
part 1 (Seed of David and the Black Stone)
You wrote:"Now how funny that suddenly the Messiah is through the FATHER not MOTHER , cause Jews claim thier identity from the MOTHER, or is it only when it suites you ?"
My response: From your logic, Your ignorant of the principles of Ezra 10:3. (You know, the one the Jews call the "Son of God" ahahhah!
It is interesting to note that Jewish women (like the story of Tamar - Genesis 38) are more apt to seek-out a Jewish man, more so than Jewish men (like Solomon) will seek-out a Jewish wife.
A Jewish woman (born of another Jewish women) will marry a Jewish Man from a Jewish women preserving the Jewish-father line. Thus we have the Cohan-DNA that science has now in modern times discovered.
Even in modern times there are Jewish male-family names from the father such as Cohen, Levitt, Levy (just from the tribe of Levi alone) not to mention all the Judean-Jew family last-names as David, Solomon, Avraham, Netanyahu, ect.
What most amazing, is the fact that the very "Tribe of Judea" from where the Jewish messiah from the direct lineage (not Sura 19 virgin birthed) of Biblical King David will come (Psalms 132:11) is the very tribe preserved from the ancient times to the present:
The term "Jew" derives from the word-place "Judea" as in the "Tribe of Judah" Wow! It's that amazing Muslim!?
I know, let's read the anti Romulus and Remus religious 7 century BCE concept of virgin birth, of Psalms 132:11 of Dawud together:
"YHVH hath sworn in truth unto David (Dawud); He will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body (body of Dawud) will I set upon thy throne.
That kind of rules out Isa and Muhammad doesn't it???
And since it let's out Isa - a virgin-born, from having a direct line connected to Dawud, it makes Muhammad more than ever of a false prophet and Islam a false religion, doesn't it?
Hey, it's no wonder The Church and Islam (a 7th century CE spin off of the Catholic Church) Ishmael and Edom) unite in destroying Israel at the End of Days.
Oh. you don't believe Islam is a spin off of the Catholic (Statue-crying) Church?
Here, let me prove it to you Muslim:
Do you were your Trinity beads Muslim?
You know your Islamic Misbaha Trinity beads: "God the Father" - the 33 bead section of Subhan Allah, "God the Son" the 33 bead section called "Al-Hamduli'llah, and "God the Holy Ghost" -the 33bead section called "Allahu Akbar".
What other crying-statue religion has a 99 three-sections (Trinity) of 33 bead in their misbala / subha prayer beads? Give up Muslim? Try the Catholic rosary - from which Islam was a spin off!
Quiz: Besides the the daughters of Allah, what female name is "only" female name mention in the entire Koran? Hint Sura 19 Title! Wow, it that something?
According to the Hadiths, who was the one and from what religion noticed the "prophet "mark" on Mohammad? I rest my case!
This ends part 1 response - part 2 will continue on the next post.
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 11:25:24 am CST
part 2 (Seed of David and the Black Stone)
You wrote: "So Jews may kiss a STONE AS a VISUAL OBJECT !!! LLOOLL, but Muslims cannot ? IT- IS- STILL- A- FRICKIN - STONE,"
My response:
Perhaps you should remember your own words, "IT IS STILL A FRICKIN STONE" if and when you go to hajj in which you "MUST TOUCH" the black meteor in order to make your hajj complete!
Tell me Muslim, does it benefit the pilgrim of the hajj who "touches" the Black meteor on "Judgment Day or not? Please don't pass this revealing fact about stone-worshiping in Islam off, just simply post the answer to this question.
Let's see if we can detect spiritual stone-worshiping sickness in the words of the great Muslim traveler Valencia named Ibn Jubayr (1145-1217) "The stone, when one kisses it, has a softness and freshness which delights the mouth; so much so that he who places his lips upon it wishes never to remove them.... It suffices that the Prophet said that it is the Right Hand of Allah on earth"
That's so spiritually sick it's sad, very sad!
Again, the Jewish Temple Wall has a direct historical connection YHVH, His Temple, His prophets, and His people.
The Black meteor is a "fallen Star" of sorts and was worshiped in pagan jaahilliyan Arabia!
The Pagan Arabians even performed the Tawaf seven times around it -how the hell (literally) you don't see that Islam derived from Catholic and Arabian paganism is beyond me! Yet, you have the audacity, to claim the Jews are somehow connected to star-worship using Amos 5:26 as a proof-text when you "fallen-star" worship in the most religious-hajj way!
When Jews kiss the Western Wall, they are remembering the words the prophet Haggai (note-YHVH isn't talking about Mecca)
"And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill "this house" with glory, saith YHVH of hosts."
When a Muslim religiously kisses the black meteor, he's kissing a "black"-as in the sin-black) pagan-worshiped "fallen-star" stone. There is a big religious difference between the two!
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 2010 11:40:53 am CST
part 1 (The Personal Name of God)
You wrote: "If Eloh's name is YHVH as you stated =(part of the Ten Commandments) stated "Thou shalt hve no other YHVHs before Me. Then why is he saying no other YHVH rather than Elohi. According to your quote Elohi would be the better word to use as God is not saying " another JOHN,OR DAVID"
Considering Abraham, Moses, and the Torah was written in Aramaic then i will quote some Aramiac vesion of God:
(part of the Ten Commandments) stated "Thou shalt hve no other YHVHs before Me?"
My response:
The 10 Commandments of Exodus 20, DOESN'T Say "have no other YHVH", that was my point - that that would not have made sense.
Exodus 20:2 states: Ah-nee yod-hay=vav-hay (I am YHVH) Elo-hechah (your God),
verse 3: You shall not recognize elohim ahcharim (gods of others).
In verse 1 God gives His personal Name YHVH and then His title as there God. He then commands the Israelites that they worship not "gods of others" -signifying that all "gods of other" will NOT have that Name". Wow - no wonder the moon-god worshipers of Arabia leaves out out YHVH while "claiming" the same God of Israel! They had to!
Perhaps you could give me the Aramic translation of Exodus 6:2-3
"And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am YHVH:
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of El-Shaddi, but with My Name JEHOVAH (YHVH) I did not make Myself known to them."
Perhaps could give the archeology date record of that "Aramaic Version" and we'll compared it to the dates of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Deuteronomy scrolls. What do you say Muslim? Let's do that.
As promised: The reason you did'nt include verse 21 in your Ish 45:22 quote was because it states this:
"Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I """YHVH""""" and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside Me."
Wow, How does that Aramaic Version translate that verse Muslim?
As Promised this is now in your face!
And Again, here is my challenge to any Muslim:
Jewish Scripture Corrupt Claim:
I need the Following:
1. Dates - precisely what year(s)?
2. By Whom - give exact names of all involved.
3. Where - exact location -cites, country.
4. Archeology proof of dates, location and names involves, and most importantly archeological proof of what the original so-called Aramic ancient text said "word for word"
Bet you can't meet any of these - give it a while Muslim!
I will address you ignorant Jeremiah proof text in my coming posts.
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 2010 12:23:46am CST
(YHVH: the One and Only God)
You wrote concerning the Hebrew scripture Isaiah 45:21-22:
"Now what is the shamfull secret here?. He is saying he is the ONLY GOD not only YAHVH.tHAT IS THE SAME AS iSLAM WITH " THERE IS NO OTHER GOD BUT GOD?"
My Response: Though the Koran wants to "claim" the Hebrew God of Israel for itself (sura 29:46) YHVH's principles are far away from Islam as is the East is from the West!
Islam tries to mold it's pagan moon-god "Al-ilah" into the God of the Hebrew Bible for the benefit of the Arabian people, place, and culture. It seeks to what every enemy of Israel and its true God has sought to do before Islam - and that is to "replace" God's chosen as the favorite - just like in the story of Cain and Abel! And it will stop at nothing to achieve that goal - including terroistic murder - again, just like in the Cain and Abel story!
1. The Hebrew God of the Bible has chosen the Hebrew people as His very inheritance, and now get this Muslim, He states all through the Torah and prophets this WILL NEVER END!
"Thus saith **YHVH**, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; **YHVH** of hosts is His Name:
If those ordinances depart from before Me, saith **YHVH**, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me for ever.
Thus saith **YHVH**; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith **YHVH**." -Prophet Isaiah 31:35-37
Did you get that Muslim? No matter how bad Israel sin is, what does YHVH (not Allah) declare???????
He WILL NOT cast Israel away - that's bottom line!!!
Now I'm suppose to believe some Gentile Koran of which words were written from by an Arabian warlord who at the beginning of his (false) prophethood couldn't tell himself if he was demon possessed until Khadijah (a woman) convinced him otherwise, declared the Muslim were the "New Chosen people" (sura 3:110)?
I say hogwash!
The Hebrew Bible was given in Hebrew, by the Hebrew prophets, to and for the Hebrew people. It carries the Name of the Hebrew God 6;808 times and it's future events prophesies are that Israel at the End of Days (that we are approaching) will be glory at Jerusalem - NOT MECCA!!!
What does your Arabian Moon (Allah) god say to this?
It says not to take Jews as friend are unjust,(5:51) and are cursed (5:64) and are the most violent people (5:82) - I say every one of these attributes that the Koran places on the Jews is in and of itself an evil reflect of the Arab people and all people who follow Islam! Read my "Victim - Villain Role Switch" blog and you'll understand what I'm talking about!
YHVH would not let His words and the prophets words be corrupted of the Hebrew Bible upon the same exact principle that you believe that Allah wouldn't let his Koran be corrupted.
But here is the difference, one will triumph over the other - because the Hebrew Bible and all of it's 6808 times of containing YHVH's most personal Name, isn't the same God of the Gentile Arabian false once moon-god in origin, Al-ilah!
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 2:28:38 CST
(Ezekiel 37 / Jeremiah 8:8-10)
Part 1
You wrote: "please print the Hebrew version of this,to compare to the Aramaic one too."
My response: First of all,you my try read this web-site presentation on the Aramaic text>
http://www.balaams-ass.com/ALHAJ/aramaic.htm
Tell me Muslim, which is the oldest text, the Greek Septuagint or the Aramaic text?
Which is the oldest text, the Hebrew text that the Septuagint was translated from into Greek in 250BCE or the Aramaic text?
What can you tell me about the "Temple Ostraca" or "The House of Yahweh Ostraca" that is dated to **900BCE** written in ancient "middle script" Hebrew writing?
>http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/6_middle.html
Knowing this archeology reality, why would I give a rats' about your so-called Aramaic text?
You are just like the Holocaust and Jewish temple deniers who will stop at nothing to try to wash away Islam-condemning historical evidence for the sake of your false Islam!
You wrote:
"As for being with israel forever and the covenant....This is come and gone after coming back from babylon. Ezekiel was NOT the last of your prophesis, others came where it CONDEMS the jews.so what was the last prophesy concerning the Jews?
My response:
You need to read my open blog letter to your spiritual brother and fellow religionist in Jew-hating, Hank Hanegraaf (August, 2007). I do a verse by verse analysis of Ezekiel 37:21-28
I'll give you three quickies:
1. There was no full Babylonian (only 5%) Jewish return as depicted in Ezek. 37:21-22 and further depicted in Isaiah 27:12-13, and in Amos 9:11-15. This is why there is such a huge volume of writings from 200 BCE to 200 CE called the "Babylon Talmud" placed together by Babylon Jews.
2. There was no messianic-Davidic figure during the 5% Babylon return as the Ezk 37 text describes.
3. During Jesus' time the Jews were still in exile as St. John 7:35 indicates. Every where Paul travels in Asia Minor he run into Jewish synagogues: Acts 9:2, Acts 11:19, and Acts !8:2-4 just to name a small few. This clearly indicated the that the massive return of "all" the Jewish exiles depicted in Isaiah 27:12-13 / Amos 9:11-15 / and especially Ezekiel 37:21-22 has NOT YET BEEN FULFILLED!
The "Bottom line" to all of these return prophesies is that "AFTER" the returm, Israel will NEVER be unrighteous again, and will NEVER Again be ousted out of the Land of the Covenant!
So Muslim, it don't matter what prophet rebukes Israel after Ezekiel, because very prophesy that Ezekiel prophesied will STILL come to pass to the glory of the God of Israel.
This ends part 1 of this response - part 2 be will the next post.
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 2:28:38 CST
(Ezekiel 37 / Jeremiah 8:8-10)
Part 2
You wrote: "I'll tell you. It was Jesus's prophecy of NEVER EVER being able to rebuild the Temple. You may try and take it from the Muslims with all your state of the art weapons... but GOD will avenge and will stop you TILL the Messiah comes back. This time you cannot kill him as you killed many other prophets. "
My response:
Your above statement prove beyond everything that Ezekiel words are so true: "And the heathen (again, that's you Muslim) shall know that I **YHVH** do sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary shall be in the midst of them (Israel) for evermore."
Ezk. 37:28
It will be during the fulfillment of Ezekiel's temple prophecy - touched on in Ezk 37:28 but in great detail in Ezk. chapters 40-48 (again, which wasn't fulfilled in Jesus' first-century time, will be what makes you, the Islamic Al=ilah moon-god worshiping heathen, that the Jews have been right all along!
Don't you realize that all the world powers via your Islamic backed Quartet are focusing in on the Temple Mount for an Ezekiel 37:28 spiritual reason??? when at no other time in all of the world history, could such a power force against the Jews be displayed, in order - like that of Gideon - YHVH will show His glory to all the world by declaring His eternal covenant and Law of Moses with the Jews His chosen, as a testamentary against the entire world powered nations?
"Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek **YHVH** of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before **YHVH**.
Thus saith **YHVH** of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a JEW, saying, We will go with you (a-tem plural "you" in Hebrew): for we have heard that God is with you." - The Prophet Zechariah 8:23
this ends part 2 - part 3 of this response will be on the next post
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 2:28:38 CST
(Ezekiel 37 / Jeremiah 8:8-10)
Part 3
You wrote:
You must not ADD& SUBTRACT words like your lying scribes:
(Jeremiah 8:8,10) 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?.8… prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit.
My response:
Islam is the what adds (a new chosen people - a gentile prophet) and subtracts (the very personal Name of YHVH and His end-time prophecy of glorifying His chosen Israel)!
Jeremiah 8:8-9 is in no way talking about "altering the Torah" into another text, you Muslim willful idiot. If you will read the entire text verse 7 through 9 it is talking about the scribes writing the Torah and then saying they have the Law of God, while not "knowing" the Law that they wrote - their lives of how they were living went against the Torah while they made the religious claim that they know the Law because they wrote it down - making their pen falsehood. It has nothing at all to do with the text of Torah itself! That's not even anywhere close to the mindset of the text - only your Islamic stretch to take the text out of context, would come up with such an interpretation!
How can one verify what I'm saying is true without simply reading the message the text wants to convey?
Well, let's look at Jesus (prophet of Islam)' words
"Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from **the law** (the same "Law" mentioned in Jer.8:8) , till all be fulfilled." - Matt. 5:18
If the Law was altered at anytime before Isa's time, then he would be a liar, would he not?
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. -John 5:39
Why would Isa want the Pharisees to search corrupted scriptures that would testify of him? Does that make sense Muslim?
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not." - Matt. 23:2-3
What does that mean "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Musa's' seat" what does that mean Muslim?
Isa telling them to observe what they tell you, why is that? - Why is that Muslim?
But just don't do as they do?
Isn't that like my explanation of Jer, 8:7-9 ? where they had the correct Law, and could instruct right from the law, but their lives didn't match the Law??? Isn't that waht Isa was telling them Muslim??
Note the very Last Prophet and Last words to the Jewish Nation (long after Jeremiah's time:
Remember ye the Law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Malachi 4:4 (Christian Bible)
How could Israel remember all Moses commanded them if they didn't have the "correct Torah" Moses had given them from the start? How could they Muslim?
Do you see how Mohammad was full of it when he said the Jews corrupted their scriptures, do you see?
You will when the third and final Temple goes up, just like Ezekiel prophesied you will!
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-Nazi)
Posted March 3, 2010 3:01:07 CST
You wrote:
"last time jews tried was during the rule of Emperor Julian 361-363 The restoration of the Temple was to discredit Jesus' prophecy in Matthew 24, that not one stone of the Temple would be left standing on another..."
My response:
Why didn't you refer to "Emperor Julian" as "Julian the Apostate" like your spiritual brothers - the Jew-hating Christian replacement-theologists who gave him that title?
The reason the Temple couldn't be restored during Julian's time was
1. He (being the one initiating the temple movement) wasn't the Jewish messiah from the direct line of King David as the Ezekiel prophecy details specifically.
2. The Third and final Jewish Temple will be for the entire globe (from one end to the other) will witness it - something not possible during the 4th. century.
3. The global power as we today in the Quartet (UN, EU, USA, Russia) is thousands of times stronger than the Byzantine Christians that battled Julian - whom God (like in the days of Gilead) will show His mighty power over such a Quartet world power movement in the form of the third and (Ezekiel 40-48) Jewish temple!
Anonymous Muhammad, your very statement: "The restoration of the Temple was to discredit Jesus' prophecy in Matthew 24" sets up perfectly the fulfillment of Ezk.37:28, Zech 8:23, Ish, 52:15.
Once the third Temple appears before the entire world, it will cause your concept of "Isa-prophet of Islam" to unravel, and along with it, Muhammad's viewed prophethood!
The spiritual union between replacement-theology Christendom and its sister spin-off religion, Islam, will be seen for what it is - spiritual enemies against YHVH and His chosen - what murderous Cain was to chosen Abel!
Note:
The "seven so-called historians" thay you refereed to in your post were all "replacement-theology (Jew-Hating ) Christians" ....go figure!
Since the evil Crusades, Inquisitions, Pogroms, the Holocaust, the Blood libels, and the Protocol of the Learned Elders of Zion, are all - every single one - based upon spiritual Christian replacement-theology, I would put much faith in "history-telling" by replacement theologists.
To Anonymous (Spiritual Brother of Haj Amin Al-Husseni al-NAZI)
One final note about the Name of YHVH:
My understanding is that you believe (based upon you calling the Name of YHVH a burb or a fart, and your referral of the 4th century CE Aramaic text) that the Name YHVH though mentioned nearly 7,000 times throughout the entire Hebrew scriptures (included in every book) was simply a Jewish created-corruption as to not use El, Eloh, or Elohim? Is that right Anonymous Muhammad?
Now, wae Isa a prophet of Islam?
(Simple yes or No will do)
Did John the Baptist for-run Isa as the messiah, according to Isa's statement recorded in the New Testament? (simple yes or no)
Did Isa believe John the Baptist was of the "Spirit of Elijah" as prophesied by the Hebrew Prophet Malachi?
"but I say into you, that "Elijah" is come already, and they knew him not, but did unto him whatsoever they would. Even so shall the Son of man also suffer of them.
Then understood the disciples that he spake unto them of John the Baptist." Matt 17:12-13
Ok, so now we're set.
Malachi, who Isa the prophet of Islam referred to, was a true Hebrew prophet, who prophesied of "Elijah" 400 hundred years before John the Baptist, right? Follow me so far?
Now, WHAT DOES THE NAME """ELIJAH""" MEAN IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW, SINCE (to you) THE NAME OF YHVH WAS A CORRUPTION-CREATED NAME BY THE JEWS???????
HERE'S A HINT: ****EL (IS) YHVH*****
Now "THAT" says it all - Salam!
hey Joe
last time you could not take my response you BLOCKED me till you got yourself together again.
before i shut you up AGAIN, are you going to block me ?
To Anonymous (Mohammad - because every Muslim is somehow and in some way named Muhammad) Posted March 22
Since I blow every single claim you posted, how you figure that I couldn't your response is beyond me. Now you want bring out more Islamic BS to add to your original Islamic BS I suppose.
A tactic that I'm very familiar with among Islamic self-apologists is to try and bombard-lie over and beyond the number of truth-responses addressing the lies, in order to keep a good portion of the lies unaddressed. I think the Muslim uses this tactic in order to help himself believe his knowingly false Islamic BS!
I will (as I have) answer anything you post. What I will not allow, is you putting out a bunch different subjects and not giving me the time (because I do work two jobs for a living) to respond to all of them before sending out a bunch more Islamic claims - bombarding with Islamic claims without hearing the truth-response.
A better and proper way to take "one" Islamic claim and stay with that subject until we hashed it out thoroughly! That's the way debates are done.
If you're game fill free can pick the topic and Islamic claim.
By the way, I believe I had more in number and more lengthy responses in answering your claims than you had claims, so my memory and eye balls suggest quite truthfully that you didn't shut me up, and that you therefore made another false Islamic claim!
To Anonymous - Mohammad:
One other thing, unless its a reference from the Bible, Koran, or Hadith, let's be fair and use our "OWN WORDS" instead of the "copy/paste and smile" game!
If I have to type to respond, you need to be typing to begin with instead of copying and pasting some Catholic-antisemitic, Communist, woman-liberal, book, like you did last time.
If I want to respond to what some antisemite said about Israel and the Jews, I'll write a blog on it.
I want to respond to want your mind is telling you, not to page in a book that you want to do your debating for you, - because that what was pointed out to you for you to believe originally.
To Anonymous Mohammad,
Since you haven't posted in several hours and therefore haven't picked a one subject to hash out to the full context of that subject, let me pick one.
Since the Islamic theory of "Jewish corruption of Hebrew Scripture" is indeed Koran-based, and if therefore such an Islamic theory is proven to be in no possible way correct, it would prove the Koran to be a false and unholy book and would show Mohammad to be a false prophet and a liar pertaining to Jews.
It would as demonstrate the Victim-Villain Role Switch that I declare plays a very central role in the make up of Islam, in Mohammad being the true scripture-corrupter rather than the Jews!
So let's do a debate on the "corruption and falsification of the Islamic corruption theory".
I just need for you to verify again (I can always go back to my posted posts and quote you verbatim) that the Hebrew Name of God [Y'H'V'H'] was an Israelite corruption all of its nearly 7,000 times it was noted within and throughout the Hebrew Bible.
Is this correct Anonymous Mohammad?
To Anonymous Mohammad,
On March 22 you posted like you was this big bad Islamic apologist. What happened? You're not blocked and you have received s challenge concerning the Koran 2:75 Jewish scripture corruption claim, where if proven wrong will show Muhammad to be a non-Davidic gentile false prophet.
So come on, I want to see defend your prophet, unless of course I'm shutting you up!
Dr. G Reckhart, you should probably learn how to read Hebrew, everything you said was absolutely false, not only am I speaker of modern Hebrew, some of us can actually read the "ancient' Hebrew, what we call 'High Hebrew' it looks as if you copied and pasted from somewhere, your first sentence (not the title) shows your ignorance, there is not and never was a 'J' sound in my language and for that matter no 'W' either, although VERY ancient Aramaic has one, now go away. Yours truly, S.H.
To Talmidin,
I guess you're addressing the post by "Anonymous" (a.k.a. Mohammad, Muhmoud, Ahmed) posted on November 11, 2009 - 2:20 am.
Thanks for your input.
Dr. Reckhart wishes to change the Name of God perhaps to his Gentile Christianity while the Islamists seek to change the Name of God to their Gentile Islam and they'll gladly use each others work to support each other. Amazing isn't it?
From my blog on my Judaism-Now site:
"The following is a small list of things that has accommodated the changing of God's Name:
The Headquarters of the Religion - While Judaism's eternal city has and always will be Jerusalem, Israel (The City of David) Christianity's headquarter is in Rome, Italy and Islam's is in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.
The Language of the Holy Books - While Judaism's Bible was originally written in mostly Hebrew (with a little Aramaic) Christianity's scriptures are written in Greek (including their Hebrew scripture portion - 'The Septuagint') and Islam's Koran is written in Arabic.
War in the name of God - While Jews has never sought the annihilation of Christians nor Muslims, Jewish annihilation has been a goal of both Christianity and Islam ever since becoming a world power."
medium.com has an article about Arab Supremacism headlined
"Supremacism in Islam and Others: The Explicit Secret of the Cult
Experiences from the Middle East"
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